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#Vi diras ke demandis la komunumon, sed ne ricevis respondon. Ĉu vi vere konsideras tion sufiĉa pravigo por eki ŝanĝojn arbitre? |
#Vi diras ke demandis la komunumon, sed ne ricevis respondon. Ĉu vi vere konsideras tion sufiĉa pravigo por eki ŝanĝojn arbitre? |
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#Vi ĝis nun ne respondis kial vi anstataŭigas ''malofta'' per ''rara''. Ankaŭ vi ne klarigis, kial klopodante esti vortaristo vi parolas neregulan Esperanton, apenaŭ kompreneblan ekster grupeto da eksperimentuloj. Kion signifas ''vi detruis '''na''' multe'', ''uzu '''na''' (nomo de alia ŝablono)'', '''''Na''' kiom da ŝablonoj oni bezonas''. PIV ne konas vorton ''na''. Ĉu vi planas reformi ne nur Vikivortaron, sed ankaŭ Esperanton?--[[Uzanto:RG72|RG72]] ([[Uzanta diskuto:RG72|diskuto]]) 04:50, 21 okt. 2018 (UTC) |
#Vi ĝis nun ne respondis kial vi anstataŭigas ''malofta'' per ''rara''. Ankaŭ vi ne klarigis, kial klopodante esti vortaristo vi parolas neregulan Esperanton, apenaŭ kompreneblan ekster grupeto da eksperimentuloj. Kion signifas ''vi detruis '''na''' multe'', ''uzu '''na''' (nomo de alia ŝablono)'', '''''Na''' kiom da ŝablonoj oni bezonas''. PIV ne konas vorton ''na''. Ĉu vi planas reformi ne nur Vikivortaron, sed ankaŭ Esperanton?--[[Uzanto:RG72|RG72]] ([[Uzanta diskuto:RG72|diskuto]]) 04:50, 21 okt. 2018 (UTC) |
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## Mi toleris, ke ĉi tiu uzanto uzu sian volapugaĵon ''''na'''' en la diskutoj, sed mi ĵus rimarkis, ke li ankaŭ uzas ilin en ŝablonoj, kaj do en la enhavo mem de la kapvortoj! Mi dankas lin pro liaj multaj bonaj kontribuaĵoj, sed kun doloro mi baru lin dum 3 monatoj por ĝuste "plibonigi la kvaliton de la Esperanta Vikivortaro". --[[Dosiero:Nuvola Esperanto flag.svg|20px|link=Uzanto:Pablo Escobar]] [[Uzanto:Pablo Escobar|''Pablo Escobar'']] 21:28, 13 nov. 2018 (UTC) |
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Eĉ kvankam mi jam pli-malpli [[Uzanta diskuto:Pablo Escobar#Grava averto pri kopirajto|forlasis]] ĉi tiun projekton, oni tamen petis al mi doni mian opinion ĉi tie. Mi konsentas kun rapida forigado de ŝablonoj, se ili estas neuzataj, kaj se troviĝas pli bona, samaspekta kaj pli ĝenerala ŝablono, kiel ekzemple {{Ŝ|fak}}. Oni faras tute same en Vikipedio, kie oni lastatempe forigis multajn ĝermo-ŝablonojn kaj unuigis ilin ĉiujn en [[w:Ŝablono:Ĝermo]]. Mi ne vere vidas diferencon kun la situacio ĉi tie. |
Eĉ kvankam mi jam pli-malpli [[Uzanta diskuto:Pablo Escobar#Grava averto pri kopirajto|forlasis]] ĉi tiun projekton, oni tamen petis al mi doni mian opinion ĉi tie. Mi konsentas kun rapida forigado de ŝablonoj, se ili estas neuzataj, kaj se troviĝas pli bona, samaspekta kaj pli ĝenerala ŝablono, kiel ekzemple {{Ŝ|fak}}. Oni faras tute same en Vikipedio, kie oni lastatempe forigis multajn ĝermo-ŝablonojn kaj unuigis ilin ĉiujn en [[w:Ŝablono:Ĝermo]]. Mi ne vere vidas diferencon kun la situacio ĉi tie. |
Kiel registrite je 21:38, 13 nov. 2018
mardo la 21-a de majo, 2024 |
Bonvenon al la diskutejo de Vikivortaro!
Jen loko por babili pri Vikivortaro. Aldoni komenton |
Esploru arkivojn de la diskutejo |
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There was a problem with maps on Wikimedia wikis that used <mapframe> when you clicked on the link to another map service. Open Street Map or Google Maps are examples of other map services. If you had marked a place on the map the marker would not be in the same place on the other map service. It was in the middle of the map. This has now been fixed. [1]
Changes this week
- Very old and inactive unpublished translations in the Content Translation database will be removed. This is because of technical maintenance. If you have not worked on a translation after 1 January 2016 you will lose it after 6 July. If you want to keep the unfinished translation you need to open it before 6 July with the Content Translation tool. You can continue working on it later. Translations that were started or have been worked on after 1 January 2016 will not be affected.
- There is no new Mediawiki version this week.
- EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. It works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/07 issue. [2]
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15:32, 3 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There are sometimes links to pages about the same thing on other Wikimedia projects. A Wikipedia article about Berlin can link to the Wikivoyage guide or Wiktionary entry about Berlin. You can now see when that page has a badge. A badge could be the star that shows that an article is a featured article. [3]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 julio. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 julio. It will be on all wikis from 13 julio (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 julio at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Mobile users will be able to edit Wikipedia without JavaScript. This will make it possible to edit the wikis from older mobile phones. This will probably happen on 18 July for most wikis. [4]
- We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.
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15:07, 10 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- "Wikimedia Labs" is now called "Cloud VPS". "Wikimedia Tool Labs" is now called "Wikimedia Toolforge". This is to help clarify the purpose of these services. [5]
Problems
- On some pages, the Table of Contents is not being shown. It will normally appear if you edit the page again. Investigation is currently ongoing. [6]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is: Migrate to HTML5 section ids. [7] The meeting will be on 19 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Page Previews, currently a Beta Feature, will be enabled for logged-out users for all remaining Wikipedias (with the exception of English and German) the week of 24 July. An A/B test will be run on English Wikipedia to collect data before approaching the community for further discussion. [8]
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22:58, 17 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later. [9][10][11]
-
.mw-ui-constructive
modifier class is deprecated and has been removed. [12]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 julio. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 julio. It will be on all wikis from 27 julio (calendar).
- It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation. [13]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 julio at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on 27 julio at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.
Future changes
- New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.
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15:57, 24 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Improved search in deleted pages archive
Please help translate to your language
During Wikimedia Hackathon 2016, the Discovery team worked on one of the items on the 2015 community wishlist, namely enabling searching the archive of deleted pages. This feature is now ready for production deployment, and will be enabled on all wikis, except Wikidata.
Right now, the feature is behind a feature flag - to use it on your wiki, please go to the Special:Undelete
page, and add &fuzzy=1
to the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1. Then search for the pages you're interested in. There should be more results than before, due to using ElasticSearch indexing (via the CirrusSearch extension).
We plan to enable this improved search by default on all wikis soon (around August 1, 2017). If you have any objections to this - please raise them with the Discovery team via email or on this announcement's discussion page. Like most Mediawiki configuration parameters, the functionality can be configured per wiki.
Once the improved search becomes the default, you can still access the old mode using &fuzzy=0
in the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=0
Please note that since Special:Undelete is an admin-only feature, this search capability is also only accessible to wiki admins.
Dankon! CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 18:39, 25 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Some pages show the error
Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject
. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything. [14] - Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.
Changes later this week
- Some wikis already have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August. [15]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [16]
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21:45, 31 jul. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see which Wikipedia language versions are read in a specific country. This tool is called Wikipedia Views Visualized. [17]
- The Architecture Committee is now the Wikimedia Technical Committee. You can read the charter. [18]
Problems
- You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "Sendi al mi ankaŭ retmesaĝojn pro malgrandaj redaktoj de paĝoj kaj dosieroj" at the bottom of "Uzulaj datumoj" in your preferences if you want to. [19]
- The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed. [20]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).
Future changes
- Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [21]
- Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use the Latin script. The URL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like
.D0.A1.D1.81.D1.8B.D0.BB.D0.BA.D0.B8
instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months. [22][23] - Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings. [24][25]
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21:45, 7 aŭg. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats can now set users as confirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed. [26]
Problems
- The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it. [27][28]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 August. It will be on all wikis from 17 August (calendar).
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23:28, 14 aŭg. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now test the new Timeless skin on the test wiki and mediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugs in Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon. [29][30]
- Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences. [31]
- If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed. [32]
- The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.
Changes later this week
- Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files. [33]
- The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [34]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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18:00, 21 aŭg. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Syntax highlighting is now a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It will come to right-to-left wikis later. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. [35][36]
- You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can turn this off or choose to get an email notification in your preferences. You can also turn on to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. [37]
Problems
- Some pages show the error
Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject
. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that use Wikidata. This has now been fixed and no new pages will get this problem. You still need to fix pages that were broken before and still show the error message. You can see how on this page. [38]
Changes later this week
- You can block users from sending you notifications. [39]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Technical Committee. The topic this week is Migrate to HTML5 section ids. The meeting will be on 30 August at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- In the future you will have global preferences. This means you could set something in your preferences to work in the same way on all wikis. You will not be forced to use global preferences. The developers are now asking if editors need exceptions. This is where you want to use global settings on almost all wikis, but have some wikis where you want it to work in a different way. If you want this you need to tell the developers now. You can do so on the talk page. [40]
- New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [41]
- The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis can ask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.
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22:09, 28 aŭg. 2017 (UTC)
Columns for references
Hello,
At the request of Wikipedia editors, a new feature has been added to MediaWiki. Long lists of references (also called citations or footnotes) will automatically be displayed in columns. This will make it easier for most people to read the references, especially on narrow screens. Short lists of references will not be affected.
I plan to enable this new feature at this wiki on Monday, 11 September 2017. After that date, use the normal <references />
tag on any page with many references to see this feature. If you do not want columns used on that page, then use this wikitext code instead: <references responsive="0" />
18:23, 1 sep. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- We are asking Tech News readers five questions to make the newsletter better. You can answer the questions here. We are grateful for every reply we get.
Recent changes
- The RevisionSlider user interface has changed. You can now select revisions by clicking on the bars. You can move the blue knob past the yellow one and the yellow one will move along, and the other way around. [42][43]
Problems
- Some users have problems loading very large watchlists. It is working better than earlier but the problem has not been solved. The developers are working on fixing it. Until it has been fixed you can turn on "Etendi la atentaron por montri ĉiujn ŝanĝojn, ne nur la plej lastajn" in your preferences and see if it helps. [44]
Changes later this week
- New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [45]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can see a presentation about and discuss the new Technical Committee on 5 September at 17:30 (UTC). There will be a presentation on YouTube and a discussion in
#wikimedia-office
on Freenode. You can use the web chat. [46]
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22:14, 4 sep. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. You can choose to get these notifications in your preferences. Some wikis already had this option. It is now available on all wikis. [47]
- The Newsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later. [48]
- The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category:
tidy-whitespace-bug
. This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read more about using Linter and the Tidy whitespace bug. [49]
Problems
- Tech News 2017/36 reported about new filters for edit review coming to watchlists. This was planned to happen last week. It will happen next week instead. [50]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
- OOjs UI will be updated. This could affect some icons. You can read more about the changes.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can use Electron instead. Most PDFs are already created with Electron. Electron will get missing features before 1 October. You can create books but they will not have all planned features until November or December. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
- New filters for edit review are available now on recent changes as a beta feature. Some of those filters and other features will be deployed as default features in the coming weeks. Users will be able to opt out in their preferences. [51]
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19:15, 11 sep. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see contributions from an IP range at Special:Contributions. Before you could only see contributions from single IP addresses. Some older contributions from IP ranges could be missing at first because it will take some time to add them. [52][53]
- Flow has been re-scoped to become Structured Discussions and the development has restarted. Phabricator projects and repositories have been renamed. [54]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 September at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- We are replacing Tidy on Wikimedia wikis. Editors need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors. Some wikis have already switched. If your wiki would like to switch to the new format now, you can file a task.
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15:31, 18 sep. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikitext syntax highlighting is a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. You can now search through the entire article with
CTRL
+F
orcmd
+F
when you edit. Before it just searched through a part of the article. The developers are also fixing a couple of other bugs. [55][56] - Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions as a beta feature or by default can now create and move Structured Discussions boards. Structured Discussions was previously called Flow. [57]
Changes later this week
- You now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences. [58]
- Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser. [59]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
- You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
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15:59, 25 sep. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it. [60]
Changes later this week
- If you have turned on "Aŭtomate ŝalti plejparton de betaj funkciojn" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature. [61]
- Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look. [62]
- The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October. [63]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature. [64]
- The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.
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23:25, 2 okt. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The number of active users listed by
{{NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS}}
and on Special:Statistics will now only include Wikidata edits as activity on Wikidata and not on other wikis too. [65] - Previously you could create wiki links starting with two colons. Now you need to use one colon. [[::File:X.jpg]] now has to be [[:File:X.jpg]]. There is now a new Linter category. You can see a list on Special:Linterrors/multi-colon-escape. The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. You can read more about using Linter. [66]
Problems
- You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models. [67]
Changes later this week
- The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week. [68]
- If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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14:20, 9 okt. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's
format
configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it. [69][70] - The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.
Problems
- There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis. [71]
- Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this. [72]
- Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed. [73]
Changes later this week
- Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [74]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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15:31, 16 okt. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can use
ccnorm_contains_any
when you create an abuse filter. This can be used to look for multiple words or phrases within a string. It will find words where some characters have been replaced. You can read more in the documentation. [75]
Changes later this week
- When you search in some languages the search function could use specific other languages if the first language didn't work. This is called a fallback language. This didn't work properly and created bad searches. The search index is being fixed to work better. [76]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- There is a Structured Commons community focus group for Commons and Wikidata contributors who want to give input on structured data on Wikimedia Commons. You can sign up to join it. [77]
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18:18, 23 okt. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now block users from emailing you through the Wikimedia wikis. [78]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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00:20, 31 okt. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You will no longer see the patrol log on Special:Log unless you specifically select it. [79]
Changes later this week
- The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 6 November. You can post proposals from 19:00 UTC and until November 19.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- URLs that link to sections on Wikimedia wikis with non-Latin scripts have looked like this:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.8F
instead ofhttps://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История
. This will soon be fixed. Old links will still work. [80][81]
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18:45, 6 nov. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The diff you see when you compare two different versions of a page has changed on MediaWiki.org and the test wiki. This is to make it easier to find a text change in a moved paragraph. It will hopefully soon come to more wikis. You can report bugs in Phabricator. [82]
- A new user group on Commons will be able to upload MP3 files. The plan is to have this user group from 17 November. [83]
- Wikis using Flagged Revisions will get the New filters for Edit Review by default on the recent changes pages. It will be possible to opt-out in user preferences. [84]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 November. It will be on all wikis from 16 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Support for uploading and viewing 3D models is coming soon to Wikimedia Commons. The feature will support the .STL file format. You can see an example on the test wiki. [85]
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19:19, 13 nov. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- If you use the Chrome web browser on Android you can see a download icon on the mobile website. You can download a formatted PDF. It will work in other mobile browsers in the future. [86]
- The abuse filter now has a function called
get_matches
. You can use it to store matches from regular expressions – one of each capturing group. You can read more in Phabricator.
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki version didn't come to all Wikipedias because of a database crash. It will be on all wikis on 20 November. [87][88][89]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 November at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Language converter syntax will no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like
http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}-
must be replaced. You will have to write-{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }-
instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. This will happen next week. [90][91]
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19:18, 20 nov. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now test the new advanced search function beta feature on mediawiki.org. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It will come to German and Arabic Wikipedia this week. It will come to more wikis later. [92]
- You can now upload large files with the Internet Archive upload tool. Previously you could not upload files larger than 100 MB. [93]
- You can now use the Timeless skin on all wikis. You can choose skins in Special:Preferences#Appearance. [94]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 November. It will be on all wikis from 30 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 November at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:30, 27 nov. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- It is now possible to upload MP3 files to Commons. Only users with MP3 file upload rights can upload MP3 files. [95]
- You can now use live updates for recent changes if you use the new filters. This feature updates the filtered recent changes every three seconds when you activate it. [96]
- There is an experimental onion service for Wikimedia projects. [97]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 December. It will be on all wikis from 7 December (calendar).
- Very old versions of the Opera Web browser are no longer supported. This means that technical development will not be tested to make sure it works with those Opera versions. Use Opera 15 or above or another browser if you have problems. [98]
- Almost 170 wikis with no high-priority errors in Linter categories will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. A few larger wikis such as German and Italian Wikipedia will also make this switch. It will happen on 5 December. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [99][100]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 December at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey will decide what the Community Tech team will work on next year. You can vote for wishes on the survey page until 10 December. You can see what has happened to last year's wishes on the 2016 results page.
- The Community Liaisons team at the Wikimedia Foundation is looking for active tech ambassadors. This is to make sure the Wikimedia communities get all the information they need about new features and can be involved in the technical development. [101]
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17:50, 4 dec. 2017 (UTC)
Invitation to Blocking tools consultation
Hello all,
The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team invites all Wikimedians to discuss new blocking tools and improvements to existing blocking tools in December 2017 for development work in early 2018.
How can you help?
- Share your ideas on the discussion page or send an email to the Anti-Harassment Tools team.
- Spread the word that the consultation is happening; this is an important discussion for making decisions about improving the blocking tools.
- Help with translation.
- If you know of previous discussions about blocking tools that happened on your wiki, share the links.
We are looking forward to learning your ideas.
For the Anti-Harassment Tools team SPoore (WMF), Community Advocate, Community health initiative (talk) 23:23, 7 dec. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- URLs that link to sections on Wikimedia wikis with non-Latin scripts have looked like this:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.8F
instead ofhttps://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История
. This has now been fixed on all wikis. Old links will still work. [102] - A new tag marks edits where a redirect was created or removed. This still works when the editor writes something else in the edit summary. You can see the tags for example in the recent changes feed, article history, user contributions or on your watchlist. [103]
- If you use Chrome on Android, you can now use the print to PDF button to create a PDF of an article. [104]
- Filter by number of edits or filter by time range have been grouped on a same menu on the recent changes page if you use the new filters. The "Vidi la novajn ŝanĝojn ekde $1" link is now more prominent. [105]
- Some of the web fonts that were provided by the Universal Language Selector extension are being removed. This is to reduce the load time on pages. The web fonts were added many years ago to help users read text in scripts which did not have fonts or had broken fonts. This is not the case any more. You can check the status page for a list of all web fonts and whether they are currently being used and especially for special requirements. [106]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 December. It will be on all wikis from 14 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 December at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can discuss new or improved blocking tools with the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team. They will work on building better blocking tools. Leave comments on the talk page.
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17:58, 11 dec. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 8 January 2018.
Problems
- When you import a page from another wiki the usernames of the users who edited the article on the wiki you imported it from are shown in the article history. This should link to the users on the original wiki. A script to fix this caused problems for Wikidata and German Wikipedia. It also created a large number of SUL accounts on wikis where editors had never edited. [107]
- Some bot owners got email about their bots logging in from a new computer. If this is from one or a couple of wikis, you can turn these messages off in your preferences on those wikis until the problem has been solved. If not, you can report more about the problem in Phabricator.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week. There will be no new MediaWiki version next week either.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 decembro at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Files on Commons will have structured metadata in the future. The developers are now looking for examples of different kinds of metadata to make sure they are aware of them when they build prototypes for structured data on Commons. You can read more and help by giving examples of interesting media files.
- The Structured Commons team are making sure Commons work with structured data. If you regularly contribute to Commons and Wikidata you can answer a survey that helps the team prioritise the tools that are important for the Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey ends on 22 December. You can read more on Commons. You can also help the team decide on better names for "captions" and "descriptions". This ends on 3 January 2018.
- The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey has now ended. You can see the results. They decide what the Community Tech team will work on next year.
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15:26, 18 dec. 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On Wikidata, the "konservi" button when you edit is now called "publikigi". This means all Wikimedia wikis have now changed from "Konservi paĝon" to "Publikigi la ŝanĝojn". This is to help new editors understand what it does. [108][109]
- Some edits will get an automatic tag on all wikis. This will happen when making a page a redirect, blanking a page, removing almost all content, undoing an edit, or rolling back an edit. You can see the tags for example in the recent changes feed, article history, user contributions or on your watchlist. Some wikis had already marked edits like these in other ways. [110]
- Special:UnusedFiles shows files that have been uploaded but are not used. It will show a file that is not used on the wiki it has been uploaded to, even if the file is used on another wiki. The new Special:GloballyUnusedFiles page on Commons only shows files that are not used on any wiki. [111]
- Structured discussions now uses the 2017 wikitext editor instead of its old custom one. This will work with your preference for wikitext or visual editor. The documentation has been updated. [112][113]
Problems
- Older versions of the Chrome web browser on mobile devices may see the PDF download button, but it does not work. The developers are looking into the problem. [114]
- With the new filters in the recent changes, "Ekskludi la elektitajn" in "Nomspacoj" did not work for "Konservitaj filtriloj" between 13 December and 2 January. When you loaded the saved filter all other namespaces were excluded instead. This has now been fixed. If you made any changes to your saved filters between 13 December and 2 January, you need to save your filters with excluded namespaces again. [115]
- The latest version of Google Chrome broke how section links are shown in the address bar. You now see
#R%C3%A9sum%C3%A9
instead of#Résumé
even if MediaWiki did not encode it that way. This happened in early December. This problem has been solved. The fix will be in Chrome 64 (23 January) or Chrome 65 (6 March). [116] - Some POST requests to the API took longer than usual in parts of December. This affected the Wikidata UI and some gadgets the most. It has now been fixed. [117]
Changes later this week
- Wikidata will be moved to its own database servers. This is because it is growing and needs more resources. Because of this you will be able to read but not edit Wikidata and the German Wikipedia between 06:00 and 06:30 UTC on 9 January. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. This includes editing the language links on other wikis. [118]
- The font size in the editing window will change slightly for some users. It will now look the same on all browsers and operating systems. [119][120]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 January. It will be on all wikis from 11 January (calendar).
- WikiEditor's ResourceLoader modules have been simplified to one:
ext.wikiEditor
. All the other modules are now deprecated aliases and should be removed. [121]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 January at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:19, 8 jan. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats on Wikimedia wikis where the Translate extension is installed can now add and remove the translation administrator permission by default. Administrators of wikis where this extension is enabled can add and remove this permission to or from themselves. Wikis that used a different configuration before have not changed. [122]
- There is a new Discourse test support channel for Wikimedia developers. You can ask questions or answer others questions about MediaWiki and Wikimedia software development. [123]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a bug that changed non-ASCII characters when a page was edited. [124][125]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 January. It will be on all wikis from 18 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 January at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- A few hundred wikis with less than ten high-priority errors in Linter categories will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 31 January. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [126][127]
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18:45, 15 jan. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Filters on Special:RecentChangesLinked will get the new look similar to on the recent changes page. Special:RecentChangesLinked will also get some new features. [128][129]
Problems
- With the new OOUI look menus and popups can open upwards instead of downwards. This was meant to make long dropdown menus easier to use. Sometimes these menus have been overlapped by other things. This is now fixed. [130]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
irc.wikimedia.org
will be rebooted on 22 February. Some bots use this to get the recent changes feed. They need to be able to reconnect automatically or they will not work until they have been fixed. Most bots can reconnect automatically. [131]
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23:55, 22 jan. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation is working on how to get less unmaintained code on Wikimedia wikis. This could be by finding maintainers or removing unmaintained features. They are now looking for feedback on what do do with AbuseFilter, the IRC RecentChanges feed, the RelatedSites extension and TimedMediaHandler. You can leave feedback on the linked talk pages. [132]
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17:07, 29 jan. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats can now add and remove the accountcreator permission by default. This means the user can help create a large number of accounts, for example for an editathon. Wikis can change this if they want to. [133]
- The Wikidata vandalism dashboard is a new tool to monitor vandalism on Wikidata labels and descriptions. It is filtered by language. [134]
- Info pages for file pages now show the file's SHA1 hash value in the table of basic information. This is so users can see that the file is the same as the one they uploaded. [135]
Problems
- Special:Export has a higher error rate right now. This means that the export does not always work. You should check to make sure your page exports worked. The developers are working on fixing this. [136]
Changes later this week
- When you review an edit made with the visual editor you can check a visual diff of your changes besides the wikitext diff. If you pick one diff type it will remember and show you that in future. The visual diff will now be the type first shown to new users. [137]
- When you use a gallery to show images you can define the size, like
gallery widths="150px"
. You could useem
or%
instead ofpx
but it would make no difference. You can now only use150px
or nothing (150
). If you write something else, instead of treating it likepx
, it will not work. [138] - The wording when you send a thanks message will change. Instead of
Jes
orNe
it will sayThank
andCancel
. It will also be easier to understand that all thanks are public. [139] - Redirects connected to Wikidata can create double Wikidata items. There will now be a tracking category for this. Wikis that don't want it can disable it. [140]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Education Program extension will be removed on 30 June. It is replaced by the Programs and Events Dashboard. [141][142]
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20:51, 5 feb. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- TemplateStyles has been deployed to the Swedish Wikipedia. TemplateStyles is a feature to make it easy to add CSS to templates without administrator privileges. This allows for better adaptability to screen sizes, especially on mobile where are half our total page views. If your community would like to be the next to have the feature, please submit a task on Phabricator. [143][144][145]
- Registration pages now collect keyboard/mouse usage information for research on identifying spambots.
Changes later this week
- You can opt in to a new beta feature that lets you use visual diffs on history pages. [146]
- The visual editor shows and lets you edit templates in one way, and reference lists in another. This meant that templates that only contain a fake reference list, like
{{reflist}}
, would not get updated as you edited. Now they will update as you edit, but you will no longer be able to visually edit them as templates. [147] - The abuse filter extension has a new feature
contains_all
that you may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string. [148] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 February at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The settings page and beta options for the mobile website are being improved. [149]
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21:59, 12 feb. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The explanation of the abbreviations on the recent changes page could overlap with the list of changes. This has been fixed. [150][151]
- You can now see statistics for pageviews per wiki per country. You can see this on maps or in a table. [152]
Problems
- Linter is reporting estimated counts instead of actual counts for some wikis. This is because of performance problems. You might notice a false higher number in linter counts for some categories. This will be fixed as soon as the performance problem has been fixed. [153]
- Last week the way that Visual Editor displays references lists was changed. As a result, the references generated by specific templates like
{{sfn}}
are not visible in the references list whilst editing. [154][155]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The way edit summaries and log comments are stored in the database is being changed. In the future this will make longer comments possible. [156]
- Edit conflicts could be solved in a different way in the future. You can test a new prototype.
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22:54, 19 feb. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Checkusers and stewards can now view private data such as the IP address in the abuse log. This data is removed regularly. [157]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki version was rolled back because of a bug. [158][159]
- Since the deployment train last week until late evening on 20 February UTC, when you thanked someone for an edit, the thank went to the latest unthanked edit to that page. It didn't matter which edit you tried to give thanks for. This has been fixed. [160]
- Special:Statistics did not take newly created pages into account since 13 February 2018. Because of this the statistics are recreated. [161][162][163]
Changes later this week
- Users with version 10 of the Internet Explorer browser will no longer get JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis. If you use this browser on your computer, you can try upgrading to a newer version. [164]
- The Wikinews wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 27 February. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [165][166]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 1 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:52, 26 feb. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Lastaj ŝanĝoj
- Vi nun povas fari pli longan redaktan resumon. [167]
Ŝanĝoj poste dum tiu semajno
- Vi povas sciigi uzantojn en redaktaj resumojn. Ili ricevos sciigon kiel se ili estis menciita sur vikia paĝo. [168]
- En Specialaĵo:Protokolo_pri_misuzado vi nun povas elekti enlistigi nur agojn kiuj efektive faris redakton. Aliaj agoj estas kiam la filtrilo avertis la redaktoron aŭ blokis la farita de redakto. Estas ankaŭ pli da serĉaj opcioj. [169][170]
- Vikioj povas ebligi Citoid por provizi aŭtomatan referencan elserĉon en la vida redaktilo kaj la 2017 vikiteksta redaktilo, sed tio estas kompleksa. La ilo nun avertos en la JavaScript konzolo se la agordo ne estas taŭga. Baldaŭ Citoid memmalebligos se la argord ne estas taŭga. Kontrolu ke via vikio estas formita taŭge. Vi povas peti helpon se vi bezonas iom. [171]
- La nova versio de MediaVikio estos en testaj vikioj kaj MediaWiki.Org ekde 6 marto. Ĝi estos en ne-Vikipediaj vikioj kaj kelkaj Vikipedioj ekde 7 marto. Ĝi estos en ĉiuj vikioj ekde 8 marto (kalendaro).
Kunvenoj
- Vi povas aliĝi la sekvantan renkontiĝon kun la teamo de vidredaktilo. Dum la renkontiĝo, vi povas diri al disvolvistoj, kiujn cimojn opinias vi estas la plej gravaj. La renkontiĝo okazos la 6 marto je la 19:30a horo (UTC). Vidu kiel aliĝi.
- Vi povas aliĝi la sekvantan konsilan renkontiĝon per IRC. Dum la renkontiĝo disvolvistoj povas peti konsilojn. La renkontiĝo okazos la 7 marto je la 16:00a horo (UTC). Vidu kiel aliĝi.
Estontaj ŝanĝoj
- En la estonteco vi estos ebla uzi transvikiaj preferojn. Tio ĉi signifas ke vi povus ŝanĝi preferojn por ĉiuj vikioj anstataŭ devanta ŝanĝi ĝin ĉiu foje por ĉiu vikio. Vi povas nun testi transvikiajn preferojn kaj provizi retrosciigon.
- Vi nun povas legi laŭplanajn laborojn pri mapoj dum 2018. Tio ĉi estos farita dum junio. Vi povas provizi retrosciigon pri la laŭplana mapa laboro.
Teknologia novaĵoj preparita far tekaj ambasadoroj kaj poŝtita de roboto • Kontribui • Traduki • Akiri helpon • Provizi retroinformadojn • Aboni aŭ malaboni.
17:12, 5 mar. 2018 (UTC)
Plej lastaj teknologiaj novaĵoj de la Vikimedia teknika komunumo. Bonvolu paroli al aliaj uzantoj pri ĉi tiuj ŝanĝoj. Ne ĉiuj ŝanĝoj efikos al vi. Tradukoj estas haveblaj.
Lastaj ŝanĝoj
- 3D modeloj nun povas esti elŝutita al Commons. [172]
- Paĝaj Antaŭrigardoj estis ĝisdatigita por uzi HTML por antaŭrigardoj. Tio ĉi riparis multajn aferojn. A/B testojn estis farita sur Angla kaj Germana Vikipedioj por mezuri kiel ĝi estas uzita. Aliaj ŝanĝoj estis ankaŭ faritaj. [173]
- Kelkaj redaktoj devas esti kontrolita kontraŭ tro da kondiĉoj antaŭ ili povas ekkaŭzi filtrilon de fitrakto. Se tio estas la kialo neniu filtrilo estas ekkaŭzita la redakto estos etikedita por revizio. [174]
- Auto-saving has been added to the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. Right now it is meant to help if your browser crashes or if you accidentally close a tab. [175]
Problems
- The abuse filter did not tag all edits that should have been tagged after last week's MediaWiki version had come to the wikis. It was fixed on 9 March (UTC). [176]
Changes later this week
- You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. This was originally planned to happen last week. [177]
- It is now possible to specify the block parameters for each filter in Special:AbuseFilter. The parameters include block duration and if the user should be blocked from editing their own talk page. The block duration is separate for anonymous and registered users. [178][179]
- A hundred Wikimedia wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 13 and 14 March. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [180][181][182]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 marto. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 marto. It will be on all wikis from 15 marto (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 marto at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 marto at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:44, 12 mar. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On March 12 early morning UTC, the number of 503 error messages increased due to an issue on esams datacenter. It has been fixed. [183]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 marto. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 marto. It will be on all wikis from 22 marto (calendar).
Meetings
- There is no Editing team meeting this week.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 marto at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- From April 4, the autopatrol status of edits will only be accessible in the Recent Changes database table, so only for 30 days. [184][185]
- In-Context Help and Onboarding is a new project, aiming to improve retention of new wiki editors. The goal is to give them short tutorials and other training experiences based on their activity. Collaboration team is expecting feedback and comments on the project talk page, especially from people working with newcomers.
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15:03, 19 mar. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- Some of the interface icons and text sizes will change slightly, as part of the updates for improved accessibility and consistency. These icons are used in many features, including Notifications, Recent Changes, Beta Features, Visual Editor, 2017 Wikitext Editor, Code Editor, and others. While editor toolbars, dialogs, and menus will appear slightly bigger; elements on special pages will be slightly smaller. Functionality will not change. [186] [187]
- The deprecated #toc and #toctitle CSS ids have been removed. If your wiki was still using these for fake Tables of Content (ToC) then these might lose their styling. They can be replaced with .toc and .toctitle classes where appropriate. [188]
- TemplateStyles will be deployed to the Wikivoyages on 28 March 2018. [189]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 March. It will be on all wikis from 29 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 March at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be one hour earlier than usual on 28 March at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- From 9 April, the sort order of categories will be distorted for a short time. We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a maintenance script to update existing database entries. This will last anywhere from a few hours to a few days, depending on wiki size. Read more details. [190]
- Changes are coming to search for Serbian projects. Cyrillic and Latin variants of a word and different grammatical forms of a word will be able to find each other. Read more on MediaWiki in Serbian or English.
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20:03, 26 mar. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
- The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.
Problems
- MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week. [191][192][193]
- The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed. [194]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
- User subpages ending in
.json
will now be protected from other people editing them, like.js
and.css
pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage likeUser:Example/mygadget.json
to do this without concerns. [195] - Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time. [196][197][198]
- AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks. [199] [200]
- In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reŝargi la atentaron aŭtomate ĉiam, kiam filtrilo estas ŝanĝita (bezonas Ĝavoskripton)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist. [201]
- You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed. [202]
- You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted. [203]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
- On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement. [204][205]
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19:28, 2 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it. [206]
- You can now thank users for many more actions than edits to a page. This was one of the top ten requests in the Wishlist Survey last year. [207]
- The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details. [208]
- Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left). [209]
Problems
- The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed. [210]
- For a week in March rollbacks got both the
rollback
and theundo
tag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed. [211]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).
- Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits. [212]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The iOS and Android apps will get synced reading lists later in April.
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18:09, 9 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so. [213]
- Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons (
===
and!==
) will be affected leaving the values unchanged. [214][215] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function. [216]
- Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3. [217]
- Volunteer developers can fill out the Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey. The last day is April 22 (UTC). This is a third-party service survey. See the privacy statement.
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15:20, 16 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- All Wikipedias now have Page Previews.
- The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
- The icons in the 2010 wikitext editor have changed. [218]
- The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press
Publish
. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressingPublish
is not the last step. [219]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- <mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May. [220]
- The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).
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18:16, 23 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Tell us what you think about the automatic links for Wiktionary
Hello all,
(Sorry for writing in English. Feel free to translate this message below.)
One year ago, the Wikidata team started deploying new automatic interwiki links for Wiktionaries. Today, the links for the main namespace are automatically displayed by a Mediawiki extension, and the links for other namespaces are stored in Wikidata. You can find the documentation here (feel free to help translating it in your language).
We would like to know if you encountered problems with the system, if you would have suggestions for further improvements. This could be for example:
- Some automatic links don’t work as expected
- Some problems you encountered with entering links (for non-main namespace) in Wikidata
- Some new features you’d like to have, related to links
To give feedback, you have two options:
- Let a message on this talk page
- Let a message here. If you do so, please mention me with the {{ping}} template, so I can get a notification.
Our preferred languages are English, French and German, but you can also let a message in your own language if you feel more comfortable with it.
I’m looking forward for your feedback! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 10:23, 24 apr. 2018 (UTC)
ELiSo partoprenis la Vikimedian Konferencon 2018
Saluton karaj kunredaktantoj!
Mi ŝatus informi vin, ke lastan semajnfinon, ekde la 20a ĝis la 22a de Aprilo 2018 okazis la Vikimedia Konferenco 2018, pinta renkontiĝo de organizita parto de la Vikimedia movado. Kaj kompreneble partoprenis ankaŭ Esperanta Vikimedia grupo Esperanto kaj Libera Scio (ELiSo) en konsisto Ivan Quintero Santacruz kaj KuboF Hromoslav (kaj pluraj esperantistoj reprezentante aliajn organizojn / grupojn).
Dum la konferenco ni multe lernis, diskutis, konektiĝadis kun aliaj aktivuloj, laboris kaj eĉ trovis tempon por amikumi. Okazis tiom multaj aferoj, ke ni bezonos kelkan tempon por ilin pritrakti; ni informos vin iom-post-iom, precipe en la dissendolistoj eliso kaj eliso-anoncoj (do aliĝu por ricevi novaĵojn plej frue kaj plej komplete!). Sed nun mi alemanŭ prezentos mian koncizan superrigardon.
Mi konscias pri 8 esperantistoj dum la konferenco. Entute partoprenis ĉ. 300 homoj, do esperantistoj jam trapasis la sojlon de 2% kaj transiris de "pioniroj" al "fruaj adoptantoj" (laŭ la teorio de difuzo de novaj aferoj).
Entute 6 homoj partoprenis la kunsidon de ELiSo. La raporton mi ankoraŭ preparas, sed mi konscize diru, ke ni decidis puŝi nian grupon al pli alta nivelo kun funkcianta strukturo (pri tio mi sendos memstaran mesaĝon) kaj ĝis 2 jaroj iĝi Tema Organizo de la Fondaĵo Vikimedio kaj (dum nedefinita tempo) Faka Asocio de UEA.
Ni lernis pri novaj (aŭ nove malkovritaj) iloj por helpi al laboro de redaktantoj kaj organizantoj, ekz. Mapo de komunumaj kapabloj, w:Ŝablono:Uzanto sandbox+, Stirpanelo por programoj kaj eventoj kaj UserViews. Tio estas vere mojosaj iloj, certe provu ilin!
Granda parto de la konferenco estis la 2a fazo de konsultado por la Strategia direkto de la Vikimedia movado 2030. Ĉar estas ĝenerala konsidero, ke per nuntempa laborado ni ne atingos la trovitan vizion, en la tutmonda vikimedia movado komenciĝis tempo de prikonsiderado de ĉio ajn kaj sekve estas akceptataj ankaŭ disrompaj ideoj (ĝis grado de malfondo de ĉiuj komisionoj kaj organizoj). Aŭdiĝis ankaŭ la opinio, ke la internacia vikimedia movado prefere transiru de uzado de la angla al Esperanto, ĉar ĝi estas multe pli justa - la opinion prezentis neesperantisto! Li laŭpete tion deklaris ankaŭ dum videoregistrado - la videon mi publikigos baldaŭ.
Parolante pri videoj... Mi faris kelkajn mallongajn video-monologojn kun kelkaj homoj kun intresaj ideoj. Ĝi estis tre improvizita, ĉar mi ĝin pripensis maljam veturante al la konferenco. Tamen, mi havas plurajn bonajn registraĵojn, kiujn mi publikigados dum sekvaj tagoj (tamen ne tuj) en la YouTube-kanalo de ELiSo, do ekabonu la kanalon jam nun por esti sciigita tuj post publikigo (kaj memoru klaki la sonorileton por vere ricevi la sciigojn...).
Do, jen fino de tiu ĉi baza sciigo! Nome de nia grupeto de reprezentantoj mi denove dankas pro esperantista subteno de nia partopreno kaj mi antaŭĝojas nian pli intensan kunlaboradon en kaj ekster Vikipedio, kiu ĵuse plikonkretiĝias.
Amike, --KuboF Hromoslav (diskuto) 11:58, 29 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Helpu puŝi organizon Esperanto kaj Libera Scio al sekva nivelo!
Saluton ĉiuj!
En mia antaŭa mesaĝo mi koncize (nu, eble ne tiom koncize...) prezentis superrigardon pri parto de Esperanta agado dum la Vikimedia Konferenco 2018. Pluraj el unuopaj punktoj tamen bezonas aktivan partoprenon de ĝuste vi! Ankaŭ la jena.
Nia grupo estis sub la nomo Esperanto kaj Libera Scio oficiale rekonita fare de la Fondaĵo Vikimedio kiel Vikimedia Uzanto-Grupo en 2013. Ekde tiam ni funkcias kiel neformala grupo kun distribuita (ni povas diri "laŭokaza") gvidado. Tio certagrade funkcias (ja vidu niajn ĝisnunajn sukcesojn kaj nune faratan laboron, ekz. Vikio amas ZEOjn). Sed dum la kunsido dum la Konferenco ni unuanime konstatis, ke ni povas atingi pli multe, helpi al pli da homoj kaj disvastigi vikimedion pli foren se ni pli intence zorgos pri bontenado kaj evoluo de niaj strukturo kaj strategio.
Tial ni starigis laborgrupon, kiu nin gvidos tra la procezo de starigo de tiu strukturo. Ni ankaŭ konscias, ke ne ĉiuj povis partopreni dum la konferenco kaj ke indas inkludi homojn kun diversaj kapabloj kaj talentoj por atingi elstaran sukceson!
Tial ni invitas vin al la laborgrupo por gvidi ELiSon al sekva nivelo!
- Kio estos la laboro?
- En la laborgrupo ni unue diskutos estontecon de ELiSo. Mi antaŭvidas 2-3 videovokojn kaj intertempan retpoŝtumadon kaj prilaboradon de dokumentoj. Laŭ rezultoj de tiuj diskutoj ni faros sekvajn agojn. Ni ĝenerale supozas, ke ni gvidos verkadon de statuto laŭ kiu ĉiu ELiSano elektos estraron. Detaloj estas por laborgrupa diskuto.
- Kiel aliĝi al la laborgrupo?
- Ĝis la 13a de Majo 2018 23:59 UTC deklaru vian intencon aliĝi per retmesaĝo al la dissendolisto eliso, al mi persone aŭ en la Diskutejo de la Esperanta Vikipedio.
- Ĉu aliĝante al la laborgrupo oni eniras estraron?
- Ne. La laborgrupo ekzistos por gvidi procezon por ekhavi funkciantan kaj firman strukturon; kiam tio estos atingita, la laborgrupo disiĝos. Membroj de la laborgrupo estas tre bonvenaj kaj invitataj plufunkcii en gvida rolo en ELiSo, sed tio ne estas deviga. Ĉiuokaze, precizan strukturon de estonta ELiSo ni interkonsentos en la laborgrupo kaj ni antaŭvidas diversajn manierojn kiel partopreni en ELiSo, ĉu en "estraro" aŭ ekster ĝi.
- Kiuj estas membroj de la laborgrupo?
- Dume estas 5 homoj: Leidy Sandoval Galindez, Juan Quintero Santacruz, Ivan Quintero Santacruz, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz kaj mi (KuboF Hromoslav). Mi volontulis por gvidi la laborgrupon.
Do, se vi volas vidi ELiSon atingadi pli multe kaj labori pli profesie, aliĝu!
Nome de la prepara laborgrupo, --KuboF Hromoslav (talk) 12:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links. [221]
Problems
- We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator. [222]
Changes later this week
- You will be able use CodeMirror in the 2017 wikitext editor on all wikis. CodeMirror helps with syntax highlighting. It has previously been a beta feature and only available on wikis with scripts that are written from left to right. [223]
- When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date. [224]
- You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Redaktado section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly. [225]
- There is a new abuse filter function called
equals_to_any
. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===
) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org. - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jhareŜablono:Erarowikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
- All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [226][227][228]
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16:18, 30 apr. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. It is now easier to find nearby places that need pictures. It helps you with direct uploads and title and category suggestions. The app only works on Android phones. [229]
Problems
- The abuse filters had a problem with blocks where you had changed how long they last. It used the default length everywhere. This was in late April. Abuse filter users should make sure the right block length is used and change them if needed. This is only for filters where how long blocks last had been changed. [230]
Changes later this week
- The advanced search function beta feature will be on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. [231]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 May. It will be on all wikis from 10 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 16 May. Other wikis will switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [232][233]
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16:27, 7 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Dynamic maps are now available on most Wikipedias. Labels on maps can also be in different languages.
- The new Advanced Search interface is now available as a Beta Feature on all wikis. This makes it easier to learn about and to use many of the powerful options in our search. Feedback is appreciated. [234]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 May. It will be on all wikis from 17 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- In the mobile view, warnings for when something is wrong with a page are not as clear as they should be. The developers are working on this. You can give feedback and suggestions.
- The developers are working on making the Wikipedia Android app available in more languages. You can give feedback, suggestions and help test it. Read more on mediawiki.org [235]
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22:22, 14 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Novaj monpetoj por informado
Por agado de la organizo Esperanto kaj Libera Scio mi malfermis 2 novajn monpetojn ĉe la Fondaĵo Vikimedio:
Unue, dankon al Sahaquiel9102 kaj Peter Baláž pro bona kunlaboro, kuncerbumado, ĉiama puŝado kaj helpado! Ni laboris sub tempa streĉo, do mi ĝojas, ke almenaŭ nun mi povas anonci la projektojn.
Ambaŭ projektoj celas plipopularigi precipe Esperantajn viki-projektojn kaj enhavojn inter esperantistoj. Parte temas ankaŭ pri ĝenerala informado pri vikimedio. Grava parto estas la konkurso Vikio amas ZEOjn 2018, kie ni invitas homojn kontribui per fotoj pri ZEOj. Ni supozas vastan informadon al ĝenerala publiko per Vikipedioj - multaj el ili supozeble ekkonos ZEOjn kaj Esperanton por la unua fojo! Por la projekto estis Petro Baláž bonkora kaj akceptis dum UK 2018 prelegi kaj informi pri la projekto.
La dua projekto temas pri kutimaj informaj / instruaj materialoj, kiujn ni uzados dum estontaj prelegoj kaj trejnadoj por helpi al homoj pli bone memori kaj uzi la informojn. Ĉar ankaŭ ni estas nur homoj kaj ne povas plurobliĝi, pripensu ankaŭ vi prelegi kaj trejni pri Vikipedio kaj aliaj vikiaj projektoj. En ELiSo ni laŭeble provizas helpon, per tiu ĉi monpeto strebas pri distribuo de instruaj flugfolioj kaj plurfoje jam sukcese monpetis por helpi financi la vojaĝon.
Fine, se vi ŝatas la agadon, mi petas vin esprimi vian subteno pri la monpetoj en la suba sekcio "Endorsements", konkrete prezentado pri ZEOj kaj informiloj. Nia Esperanta grupo jam estas konata en la Vikimedia mondo, sed akcepto de monpetoj dependas ankaŭ de montrita intereso de la komunumo. Antaŭdankon! --KuboF Hromoslav (diskuto) 21:41, 17 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 May. It will be on all wikis from 24 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- It could become easier to reference different pages of a book in an article. You can give feedback. The last day for feedback is 27 May.
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17:33, 21 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Lexicographical data is now available on Wikidata
Hello,
Sorry for writing in English. Feel free to translate the content of this message below.
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team of Wikimedia Germany has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses.
The goal of lexicographical data on Wikidata is to provide a structured and machine-readable way to describe words and phrases in multiple languages, stored in a same place, reusable under CC-0. In the near future, this data will be available for Wiktionaries and other projects to reuse, as much as you want to.
For now, we’re at the first steps of this project: the new data structure has been released on Wikidata, and we’re looking for people to try it, and give us feedback on what is working or not. Participating to this project is the opportunity for you to have a voice in it, to make sure that your needs and requests are taken in account very early in the process, and to start populating Wikidata with words in your language!
Here’s how you can try lexicographical data on Wikidata:
- First of all, if you’re not familiar with the data model, I encourage you to have a look at the documentation page. If you’re not familiar with Wikidata at all, I suggest this page as a start point.
- You can also look at the Lexemes that already exists (search features will be improved in the future).
- When you feel ready to create a word, go on d:Special:NewLexeme.
- If some properties that you need are missing, you can suggest them on this page (if you’re not sure how to do it, just let a message on the talk page and someone will help you).
- The main discussion page is d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data. Here, you can ask for help, suggest ways to organize the data, but also leave feedback: if you encounter any bug or issue, let us know. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
In any case, feel free to contact me if you have a question or problem, I’ll be very happy to help.
Egaj alfrontaĵoj ("challenges") en la Esperanta Vikivortaro
Saluton ĉiuj!
Kiel oni esprimas vorton "challenges" en EO? Mi konstruis (dumtempan) vorton "alfrontaĵoj".
Oni jam parte diskutis kelkajn problemojn ĉe diveraj uzantaj diskutpaĝoj [236] [237], sed oni preferinde diskutu la ĉefajn longdaŭrajn alfrontaĵojn ĉi tie.
Jen la egaj alfrontaĵoj kiuj prezentiĝas en la Vikivotraro:
(bonvole diskutu en la respondaj subsekcioj Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC))
challenges = defioj
Mankas bazaj vortoj
Ni havas amason da multe longaj paĝoj kun germanaj vortoj (kaj germanaj klarigoj) [238] [239] sed ni plej ofta ne havas paĝojn pri la respondaj esperantaj vortoj, nek ni havas paĝojn pri multaj bazaj esperantaj vortoj [240]. Iaspecan regulon ke oni kreu esperantan paĝon kiam oni kreas fremdlingvan paĝon ni ŝajne ne havas, sed eble ne havu ĝin, alimaniere ni neniam havos la bezonatajn paĝojn. Paĝoj havu bonan difinon kaj bonajn ekzemplojn. Bona ekzemplo: aktuala, nezamenhofa, religie neutra, ĝuste longa (nek tro kurta nek tro longa), sen obskuraj vortoj, sen obskuraj nomoj, ideologie neutra (atakoj kontraŭ reformistoj aŭ "Ido" aŭ simile certe ne bonas), konstruita tiel ke oni povas diveni la signifon de la nekonata vorto de aliaj vortoj, klariganta la eblajn uzojn de la vorto (unu ekzemplo aŭ pluraj ekzemploj por karigi eblajn prepoziciojn, uzo kun aŭ sen objekto aŭ simile). Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Rilate neŭtralecon, mi ĵus forigis bildon rilate Idon en germana artikolo.[241] Tiajn atakojn oni evitu en neŭtrala kaj profesia vortaro. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:46, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Malbona teknika kvalito, sintaksaj kaj teknikaj problemoj
Oni unuformigu la sintakson de la kaptitoloj, ekzemploj, tradukblokoj kaj aliaj paĝaj elementoj. Ni havas roboton [242] kapabla fari tion. Oni diskutu kiel roboto faru, kaj sekve restartu ĝin. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi vidas ke Robin_Bot denove laboras kaj plejparte plibonigas Vikivortaron. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:43, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Abundo da neutilaj ŝablonoj
Oni anstataŭigu neutilajn aŭ senvalorajn ŝablonojn kaj sekve forigu ilin. Roboto "Robin_Bot" komencis fari valoran laboron. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu neesperantaj paĝoj havu tradukojn?
En aliaj Vikivortaroj [243] [244] oni ne faras tiel. Oni diskutu kaj estigu decidon. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Privilegiita rolo de la germana
Nuntempe la germana sendube alprenas privilegiitan rolon ĉi tie [245] [246] [247] [248]. Oni ne havu germanan tekston en ŝablonoj, moduloj, paĝoj pri negermanaj vortoj aŭ simile. Oni ne uzu EN<->DE vortarojn kiel fonto por anglaj vortoj. Oni diskutu kaj estigu decidon. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Paĝo kun eraraj tradukoj kopiitaj el la germana Vikivortaro: title=malhela&oldid=507768 - ĉu 3 signifoj? ĉu 4? ĉu tio gravas? Taylor 49 (diskuto) 14:43, 11 jul. 2018 (UTC)
- Senespere rompita paĝo: por. Tradukbloko (kopiita el la germana Vikivortaro) referencas 9 signifojn sed nur unu difino disponeblas. Tia tradukbloko estas rekte senvalora. Alispeca ridindaĵo: title=gejaĉo&type=revision&diff=506261&oldid=506256. Rimarku ke la tradukbloko (pri EO vorto) kopiita el la germana Vikivortaro enhavas tradukojn en la celan lingvon "EO" !!! Ni havas na miloj da tiaspecaj paĝoj. Mi jam parte riparis kelkajn. Eble oni perrobote amase forigu ĉiujn tradukblokojn de ĉiuj paĝoj? Amaso ne estas valoro, sed eble mi estas la sola ulo kiu juĝas tiel? Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:55, 12 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Intervikioj
Iu afabla roboto jam forigis grandan parton, sed prezentiĝas restaĵo [249]. Oni forigu ilin. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi konsentas, ni forigu ilin. Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 00:54, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Malbona lingva kvalito, enhavo plejparte kopiita de arkaikaj vortaroj
Kvanto da [250] [251] paĝoj ne estas bona mezurilo por kvalito de vikivortaro. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:49, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Strukturo de artikoloj
Nuntempe la strukturo [252] estas (laŭbezone):
- Signifoj
- 1
- 2
- 3
- Sinonimoj
- 1
- 2
- 3
- Derivaĵoj
- 1
- 2
- 3
- Ekzemploj
- 1
- 2
- 3
Mi proponas sanĝon al (laŭbezone):
- 1 difino
- sinonimoj
- derivaĵoj
- ekzemploj
- 2 difino
- sinonimoj
- derivaĵoj
- ekzemploj
- 3 difino
- sinonimoj
- derivaĵoj
- ekzemploj
La sveda vikivortaro [253] jam ŝanĝis. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:37, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Forigendaj paĝoj kiujn neniu kuraĝas forigi
[254] Ĉu ĉiuj administrantoj jam mortis? Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:37, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Ĉi tiu spampaĝo dicionário rumano estis kreita en la jaro 2012 kaj proponita por forigo en 2017. Jam pasis pli ol jaro kaj nenio okazis tie. La nuna stato estas hontinda. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:36, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post preskaŭ unu monato: neniu forigas la forigendajn kandidatojn. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:40, 20 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ŝablono "Esperanta_verbo" estas fuŝa ("estita")
La ŝablono Ŝablono:Esperanta_verbo suferas je du problemoj: ĝi enhavas "ut" kaj "unt" participojn (tiuj kiuj volas havi ilin: bonvole kredebligu ties ution), kaj ne eblas forpreni pasivajn participojn ("it" "at" "ot") de netransitivaj verboj [255]. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:59, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi kreis novan version de tiu ŝablono, kiu ebligas (mal)kaŝi la pasivajn participojn per aldona argumento. Ĝi ankaŭ ne plu havas la neologismajn participojn -ut- kaj -unt-. Post la voĉdonado mi konservos ĝin. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 06:25, 31 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mojose, dankon. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:46, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Voĉdonado
- Kiom daŭros voĉdonado? Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 01:34, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi ne scias. Dankon al ĉiuj kiuj jam voĉdonis. Aliaj bonvole faru. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:59, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Verŝajne ĝis kiam ĉi tiu diskuto ne plu estis tuŝita dum eble semajno. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 16:55, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Tio ŝajnas bona ideo. NMaia (diskuto) 11:38, 30 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi vidas rezultojn. Dankon al ĉiuj kiuj voĉdonis aŭ riparis aŭ riparas fuŝojn kiel germanaĵojn kaj la verban ŝablonon. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:56, 8 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Tio ŝajnas bona ideo. NMaia (diskuto) 11:38, 30 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Verŝajne ĝis kiam ĉi tiu diskuto ne plu estis tuŝita dum eble semajno. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 16:55, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi ne scias. Dankon al ĉiuj kiuj jam voĉdonis. Aliaj bonvole faru. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:59, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu "Robin_Bot" anstataŭigu "Angla" -> "en" kaj simile ?
- JES. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 00:58, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Jes, sen tia anstataŭigo oni havas la situacion, ke oni povas uzi
=={{Lingvo|th}}==
,=={{Lingvo|tha}}==
,=={{Lingvo|taja}}==
kaj=={{Lingvo|tajlanda}}==
por atingi ekzakte la saman rezulton: krei la kapvorton por la taja lingvo. Tia sistemeco plej gravas por havi subtenon por la esperanta Vikivortaro en nova funkcio de la kodo. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC) - JES, laŭ la argumento de Robin supre. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post semajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, mi restartis la roboton. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 17:21, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la germana ludu iel privilegiitan rolon ?
- NE. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 00:58, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Ne. Oni anstataŭigu ĉiujn germanajn ŝablonojn per esperantaj ŝablonoj kaj poste oni forigu la alidirektilojn. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Ĉiuj germanaj alidirektiloj estas proponitaj por baldaŭa forigo. Ili ne plu estas uzataj kaj administranto nun forigu ilin. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 17:21, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu neesperantaj paĝoj havu tradukojn?
- NE. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 00:58, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Ne, nur la esperantaj paĝoj havu tradukojn. Oni kopiu la tradukojn al la esperantaj paĝoj. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Tie cxi mankas rezulto de la vocxdono.--So9q (diskuto) 09:30, 27 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu oni ŝanĝu la strukturon de artikoloj laŭ la Sveda Vikivortaro ?
- JES. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 00:58, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Jes. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- JES. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Tie cxi mankas rezulto de la vocxdono.--So9q (diskuto) 09:28, 27 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- Jes. פֿינצטערניש (diskuto) 00:36, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
"kurtigo" aŭ "mallongigo" ?
Mi ne kontentas kun kelkaj redaktoj [256]. Ĉu la ĝusta vorto estas "kurigo" aŭ "mallongigo"?
- KURTIGO. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mallongigo.--RG72 (diskuto) 13:46, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- mallongigo Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 01:01, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- "mallongigo", nur estas 580 rezultoj ĉe Google por "kurtigo" kaj multaj rezultoj eĉ ne estas esperantaj, estas 112000 rezultoj ĉe Google por "mallongigo". Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Mallongigo. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post semajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, la vorto "kurtigo" ne plu estas uzata en Vikivortaro kaj estas anstataŭigita ĉie per "mallongigo". Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 17:21, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
"tutmonda" aŭ "internacia" aŭ "translingva" ?
Ne bonas: [257]. Ĉu la ĝusta vorto estas "tutmonda" aŭ "internacia" aŭ "translingva"?
- TUTMONDA. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:50, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- internacia.--RG72 (diskuto) 13:46, 25 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- "internacia". Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 10:05, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- internacia. NMaia (diskuto) 19:15, 26 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post semajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, la lingvoŝablono nun uzas la vorton "internacia". Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 17:21, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la ŝablono "Esperanta_verbo" montru "ut" kaj "unt" participojn?
- NE. (mi pretas ŝanĝi opinion se iu konvinkas min pri la utio de tiaj formoj) Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:59, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Ne, ĉar ili ne ekzistas en la efektiva lingvouzado de la esperantistaro. Kiam certa vorto finiĝanta per "u(n)t" estas aparte populareta aŭ notindeta pro ĝia ekzisto en la efektiva lingvouzado (necesas fontoj por tio), nur tiam ĝi estu registrita en la paĝo kiel eksperimenta neologisma derivaĵo, sed neniel en la tabelo. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 16:55, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. NMaia (diskuto) 11:38, 30 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post semajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, mi forigis tiujn neologismojn de la tabelo. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 22:17, 5 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la ŝablono "Esperanta_verbo" montru pasivajn participojn de netransitivaj verboj?
- NE. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:59, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Kompreneble ne, ĉar ili estas gramatike eraraj formoj kaj ĝuste pro tio mi opinias ĉi tiun diskuton sensenca. Mi povas adapti la ŝablonon tiel, ke oni povas kaŝi tiun parton en la paĝoj de netransitivaj verboj, kaj poste mi povas rapide robote ĝisdatigi ĉiujn artikolojn pri esperantaj netransitivaj verboj. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 16:55, 29 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. NMaia (diskuto) 11:38, 30 maj. 2018 (UTC)
- Post semajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, mi aldonis la eblon kaŝi pasivajn participojn per aldona argumento. Komparu okazigi kun okazi. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 22:17, 5 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu oni ripetu la kapvorton por ĉiu lingvo?
Unuformigado sendube bonas Robin_van_der_Vliet#Robin_Bot [258] [259] [260]. Ĉu oni ripetu la kapvorton por ĉiu lingvo? Ne forgesu ke paĝo povas esti tre longa kaj enhavi multajn lingvojn.
- JES. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:43, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- JES, ni ripetu Marek Mazurkiewicz (diskuto) 14:18, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Ne, kapvortoj ĉie estu ekzakte samaj por unu lingvo. Tia sistemeco plej gravas por havi subtenon por la esperanta Vikivortaro en nova funkcio de la kodo. Krome tia ripeto estas tute superflua kaj redunda. La vorton oni indiku en la titolo, oni ne ripetu ĝin ĉie. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 16:59, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- NE. NMaia (diskuto) 17:22, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Post dusemajna inaktiveco de ĉi tiu individua voĉdondiskuto, mi rimarkis, ke la diskuto stagnis kaj ke oni ne sukcesis akiri interkonsenton. Mi programis kompromisan solvon, kiu ebligas al unuopa uzanto elekti preferon: ripeti kapvorton aŭ ne ripeti kapvorton. Mi petos al administranto, ĉu tiu povas instali ĝin kaj agordi ĝin en ĉi tiu vikio. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 13:56, 18 jun. 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki. Global preferences will come to the Wikipedias later this week. [261][262]
- It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked. [263]
- Wikidata now supports lexicographical data. This helps describe words.
- There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups. [264]
- Some rare invisible Unicode characters have recently been banned from page titles. This includes soft hyphens (U+00AD) and left-to-right (U+2066) and right-to-left (U+2067) isolate markers. Existing pages with these characters will soon be moved by a script. [265]
- There's a new Wikimedia Foundation team to support the Wikimedia technical communities. It's called the Technical Engagement team. Most of the team members did similar work in other teams before this. [266]
Problems
- Some translatable pages are showing old translations instead of latest ones. The cause of this issue has been fixed. We will update all pages automatically to show the latest translations. [267]
Changes later this week
- There will be a new special page named PasswordPolicies. This page gives information about the password rules for each user group on that wiki. [268]
- A new way to see moved paragraphs in diffs is coming to most wikis. This is to make it easier to find the moved paragraphs and the changes in them. [269]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 May. It will be on all wikis from 31 May (calendar).
- Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. This is complex. The tool will now disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. It has warned about this in the JavaScript console since February. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it. [270]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Content Translation drafts which have not been updated in over a year will be removed. This allows other users to translate those articles. [271]
- A survey is collecting information on what users think about how Wikimedia wiki pages are loaded. This information could be used in future development. [272]
- Some wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 30 May and 13 June. Wikis with fewer than 100 linter issues in the main namespace in all high-priority linter categories will switch. This includes Wikidata. Tidy will probably be removed on all wikis in the first week of July. [273][274]
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The MonoBook skin has been optimised for mobile devices. It now looks different. [275]
- Planet Wikimedia collects blogs about Wikimedia. It will now use the Rawdog feed aggregator to do this instead of Planet. [276][277]
- Redirect links in Special:WhatLinksHere now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done earlier and changed the used messages on some pages. This was a problem for wikis that customized the message. A new change fixed this by using the old messages with one more parameter for customization. Wikis that already changed their customized messages will have to move the customization back again. [278]
Problems
- You will not be able to edit some wikis between 06:00 and 06:30 UTC on 13 June. You can see if your wiki is one of them.
- MassMessage did not work 24–28 May. This is also why last week's Tech News was late. [279]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 June. It will be on all wikis from 7 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This is planned to happen in June or early July. [280][281]
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21:54, 4 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- In the Wikipedia app for Android or iOS users can create reading lists. The reading lists can be seen on different devices if you are logged in to your account. There is now a browser extension so you can add pages to your reading list from a web browser. At the moment it works with Firefox and Chrome. [282]
- There is a new version of Pywikibot. Pywikibot is a tool to automate tasks on MediaWiki wikis. [283]
Problems
- The MonoBook skin was changed to make it work better for mobile users. This caused some problems. The change was rolled back to fix them. The new version is now back on the wikis. MonoBook users can opt out from the new responsive design. [284]
Changes later this week
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. For most wikis this will happen on 18 June. For the rest it will happen on 25 June. [285][286]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 June. It will be on all wikis from 14 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the Readers Web team IRC office hour. There you can discuss tools to contribute on the mobile web for the existing MediaWiki skins. The meeting will be on 18 June at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will be able to move local wiki files to Commons and keep their original data intact. This is planned to come to the first wikis in June.
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21:55, 11 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Update on page issues on mobile web
Update on page issues on mobile web
Please help translate to your language Hi everyone. The Readers web team has recently begun working on exposing issue templates on the mobile website. Currently, details about issues with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this by changing the visual styling of page issues.
So far, we have drafted a proposal on the design and implementation of the project. We were also able to run user testing on the proposed designs. The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick summary of what we learned:
- The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more evaluative/critical mode.
- Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work
- Readers care about page issues and consider them important
- Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia associated with learning about page issues
Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you might have before beginning development. Please visit the project page where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. Please leave feedback on the talk page.
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Need help reviewing Esperanto stemming
Saluton—
I'm testing a stemmer for Esperanto, which will allow searches to match related forms of a word. For example, searching for any of studento, studentoj, studenton, studentojn, studenta, studentaj, studentan, studentajn, would return the others. I need someone who speaks Esperanto to review the words that the stemmer groups together to make sure they seem reasonable. If you speak Esperanto and can review the groupings, please take a look at the lists on MediaWiki. There are about 75 groups, but they should be relatively easy for a fluent speaker to review.
It isn't clear to me whether the noun, adjective, and verb forms of a word should all be stemmed together. This happens in other languages, including English, but because Esperanto is so regular, it happens much more frequently. Is that good?
For reference, here is the English Wikipedia article on stemming.
Feel free to respond here or on the talk page on MediaWiki. Dankon! TJones (WMF) (diskuto) 18:25, 18 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Please note that "demokr", "mais", "noval", "socorrens", "dritt", "richt" are false positives. There are no such stems in Esperanto. In fact the last two listed are German, and "socorrens" sounds like a denonym. NMaia (diskuto) 11:22, 21 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, @NMaia The stemmer doesn't have a dictionary, so non-Esperanto words get stemmed like everything else. The internal representation of the stem doesn't matter too much, though having them available sometimes makes the results more understandable. The most important question is whether the groups are acceptable—that is, if searching for one and finding the others is okay. Some errors—especially with names and foreign words—is unavoidable, especially in Wiktionary. TJones (WMF) (diskuto) 19:00, 21 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Hi ... I have looked a bit on your lists. Some thoughts:
- - no need to mix UPPERcase ond lowERCase letters
- - the "Large Groups" are OK (they contain valid EO roots)
- - the "Random Groups" contain some (ie much) garbage ("socorrens" and "dritt" are not valid EO roots)
- Some hints:
- - an EO root does never contain a doubled letter (thus "dritt" is obviously invalid), but a word may as in "metroo" (metro+o) (EN: metro, underground railway) or "ekkrii" (ek+kri+i) (EN: begin to cry, suddenly produce a cry)
- - final suffixes are "-o" (noun), "-a" (adjective), "-i" (verb in infinitive), "-e" (adverb), "-j" (plural for nouns and adjectives), "-n" (accusative for nouns and adjectives, in plural placed after "-j"), "-en" (accusative for adverbs :LOL: rare but exists), "-u" (verb in imperative), "-is" & "-as" & "-os" (past & present & future)
- - most EO words do end with a final suffix, but a few don't, or have "wrong" word class ("la" is an article, not an adjective, "tamen" is not an adverb in accusative (tam+en), but it's an adverb at least)
- - EO wiktionary is messy (but getting better at the moment) and full of DE (ie German) garbage
- - you will find a list with common EO roots here: bro.html (scroll down to "179 elementoj")
- Sincerely Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:00, 21 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- Hi ... I have looked a bit on your lists. Some thoughts:
- Thanks, @Taylor 49 I appreciate all the feedback!
- - The uppercase and lowercase are shown so we know what the original words were in the sample of text. It usually doesn't matter, but sometimes it makes things clearer, usually with abbreviations or unusually formatted words. I don't think it matters here, but it is sometimes useful.
- - As for socorrens and dritt, rules-based stemmers usually can't tell whether a word is foreign or native; they just apply the rules. It actually doesn't matter what the stems look like because searchers never see them. Of course, the closer they are to the ideal stem the less likely there will be errors; on the other hand, some errors—especially with names and foreign words—are inevitable.
- - The "random groups" are a random sample. If there is too much garbage, then we shouldn't use the stemmer. Stems that are incorrect don't really matter, as long as they merge words together correctly more often than they merge words incorrectly. Matching the exact form of the word also has some weight, especially in phrases, so some of the mergers of rarer words don't matter as much. And a lot of names and foreign words will get a stem that is unique, and doesn't match any other word.
- - I tested all of your final suffixes on the root skrib-, and all of skribo, skriba, skribi, skribe, skriboj, skribaj, skribon, skriban, skribojn, skribajn, skriben, skribu, skribis, skribas, skribos stem to skrib (as do others!). The examples given aren't supposed to be exhaustive; they are based on a sample of text from the Esperanto Wikipedia and Wiktionary, to give an idea of what happenes with a more natural distribution of words.
- - The stemmer includes a list words that should not be stemmed, including la, but tamen isn't on the list, though it looks like it should be. I'll ask that it be added. The list of exceptions still has some problems (which we are discussing on the talk page). You can see the list on Github (search the page for protected void initStemmerExceptions). Any other recommendations for words that should not be stemmed according to the rules are welcome!
- To summarize: we can definitely improve the exception list, and the most important thing about the stemming groups is not the stem, but the words that are actually grouped together. Any thoughts on the other groupings? (I'm worried by your "garbage" comment that the groups are not good enough.) If you need more data, I can get a bigger sample, or, if we need to, I can possibly set up a demo search with the stemmer enabled, though that's a lot of work in this case because the stemmer is not yet in a usable form—I was hoping this review would be enough to decide whether we should proceed with the process of converting it to a usable form.
- Thanks for all the help! TJones (WMF) (diskuto) 22:04, 21 jun. 2018 (UTC)
- @ NMaia, @Taylor 49, @ Pablo_Escobar, and any others who are interested: My plan is to go ahead with the implementation of the Esperanto stemmer as an Elasticsearch plugin, and then deployment on Esperanto-language wikis. The results look reasonable to me, several people have given generally positive feedback, and the questions and concerns people have had don’t indicate that the word groupings are so bad that they wouldn’t be useful, overall. More details are on the discussion page of my report. If you have any objections to me continuing with this implementation plan, please let me know. Thanks to everyone who has commented and asked questions! TJones (WMF) (diskuto) 20:35, 17 jul. 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Syntax highlighting has been a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It is now a normal feature. It is based on CodeMirror. [287]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Future changes
- Some old web browsers will not be able to read the Wikimedia wikis. This is because they use an insecure way to connect to them. This means that we get less security for everyone else too. This affects about 0.08% of all traffic to the Wikimedia wikis. This affects for example those who read Wikipedia on a PlayStation 3. [288][289]
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. Because there is no new MediaWiki version this week it will happen on 25 June for most wikis. For the rest it will happen in early July. [290][291]
- All wikis that have not already done so will switch to use the Remex parsing library on 5 July. This is to replace Tidy. You can help fix remaining errors. [292]
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- PAWS, our JupyterHub system, got an upgrade and a logo. Several bugs should be fixed.
Problems
- When a link text was in italics or had other formatting you could sometimes not edit it in the visual editor. This has now been fixed. [293][294]
Changes later this week
- Content translation users who translate between any two of Arabic, English, French, Japanese and Russian will be asked to be part of a research project. This is to create better tools for translating articles. [295]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 June. It will be on all wikis from 28 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 26 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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23:10, 25 jun. 2018 (UTC)
Tidy to RemexHtml
The Parsing team will be replacing Tidy with RemexHtml at this wiki on 5 July 2018.
Some pages at this wiki use outdated HTML. This change may change the appearance of those pages. Special:LintErrors has a complete list of affected pages.
Read this e-mail message for more information. Read the instructions at mw:Help:Extension:Linter. You can ask questions at mw:Talk:Parsing/Replacing Tidy. Thank you for helping fix these problems.
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Recent changes
- The database for tags will be changed. This will happen on 2 July on French Wikipedia and 9 July on all other wikis. Please report if recent changes get slower or you can't save edits. This could especially affect editors who use the database on ToolForge. [296]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a database problem. [297]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- WebM video files have smaller file size but still be of the same quality. Creating WebM files will take longer time. [298]
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This was supposed to already have happened but was delayed. For most wikis this will happen on 9 July. For the rest it will happen on 16 July. [299]
- All wikis now use the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy. This could cause errors. You can help fix the errors. [300]
Problems
- When you rolled back an edit it could get both the
Rollback
andUndo
tags. This has been fixed. [301] - Rollbacks from autopatrolled users were not marked as patrolled. This has been fixed. [302]
Changes later this week
- When you edit a link in the visual editor there will be two separate buttons to change which page the link goes to (target) or its text (label). [303][304]
- On the mobile version you can find a link to an editor's contributions from their user page. Now this will work even if they haven't created a user page. [305]
- When you edit a discussion on the mobile version you sometimes get your signature automatically added. This will now not happen if you have already added a signature manually. This is to avoid double signatures. [306]
- Structured discussions toolbars will have more style options. [307]
- When you look at Wikimedia code in Gerrit there will be a new interface. It is on by default for new users. This is also true for developers. This is to make it easier to understand what is happening. [308]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 July. It will be on all wikis from 12 July (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Today all administrators can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. There will be a new user group for editing CSS and JavaScript. Administrators will no longer automatically be able to do this. This is because it is a security risk when all administrator accounts can edit JavaScript even if they never plan to or do not know how it works. You can read more. [309]
- Page previews will be on by default for new accounts. [310]
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23:10, 9 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Perrobote farendaj ŝanĝoj
Anstataŭigo de ŝablono "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|verbo"...
- title=acorn&type=revision&diff=684340&oldid=528846 kaj title=diri&type=revision&diff=684731&oldid=632717] Taylor 49 (diskuto) 10:43, 25 jul. 2018 (UTC)
- Bona propono, tamen tio ne devas esti "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|verbo", ktp. sed "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|Substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|Verbo"... ĉar evidente titoloj komenciĝu ĉeflitere. Bonvolu respekti Esperanton kaj refari la taskon.-- Pablo Escobar 21:12, 4 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Ne farita. Rimarku ke la roboto jam plejparte unuformigis la literojn al majusklaj. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:37, 8 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Bona propono, tamen tio ne devas esti "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|verbo", ktp. sed "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|Substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|Verbo"... ĉar evidente titoloj komenciĝu ĉeflitere. Bonvolu respekti Esperanton kaj refari la taskon.-- Pablo Escobar 21:12, 4 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Forigo de ŝablono {{intervikio|[[Specialaĵo:Sen intervikia ligilo]]}}
- Farita. Dankon al roboto kaj ties posedanto. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:33, 23 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de {{Vortospeco|nombrovorto|... per {{Vortospeco|numeralo|...
- title=septendecim&type=revision&diff=684371&oldid=667799 Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:52, 16 jul. 2018 (UTC)
- Farita. Dankon al roboto kaj ties posedanto. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:33, 23 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Vortseparo" per "Vorterseparo"
- Farita. Dankon al roboto kaj ties posedanto. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:33, 23 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:Ref-Camdridge" per "Ŝablono:Ref-Cambridge" (typo)
- Farita. Dankon al roboto kaj ties posedanto. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:33, 23 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:tr." per "Ŝablono:trans." kaj "Ŝablono:intrans." per "Ŝablono:netrans."
- diri&type=revision&diff=684872&oldid=684732 kaj whimper&type=revision&diff=684887&oldid=677496 Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:54, 27 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Farita. Dankon al roboto kaj ties posedanto. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:33, 23 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page. [311]
- You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata. [312]
- You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The Wikistats2 maps have now been updated. [313]
Changes later this week
- Your watchlist will show changes from the last seven days instead of three. If you have already set a length preference it will not change. [314]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 18. It will be on all wikis from July 19 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on July 17 at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on July 18 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some articles have messages to readers about problems with the article. For example that it does not cite sources or might not be neutral. Readers do not see these messages on the mobile version. The developers now want to show them. You can read more and leave feedback.
- You can use
<inputbox>
to create search boxes for specific pages. For example to search the archives of a community discussion page. Instead ofprefix:Page name
you will see a text that explains which pages are being searched. You can read more and leave feedback.
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16:01, 16 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Plej lastaj teĥnikaj novaĵoj de la Vikimedia teknika komunumo. Bonvolu diri al aliaj uzantoj pri tiuj ŝanĝoj. Ne ĉiuj ŝanĝoj influos vin. Tradukoj estas haveblaj.
Lastaj ŝanĝoj
- Kiam vi ensalutas al via konto vi povas elekti resti ensalutita. Tiu opciilo nun efikas plibone ol antaŭ ĉe portebla versio por uzantoj sen Ĝavoskripto. [315]
- Vikioj kiuj uzas Citoido, aŭtomate povas produkti citaĵojn por svedaj sciigaj retejoj. Tio nur efikas per la vida redaktilo. Tio nun efikas por radio de sveda publika servo. Pli da eblecoj okazos. Aliuloj povus uzi tion por aldoni sciigajn retejojn en aliaj lingvoj en la estonteco. [316]
- Kontribuuloj povas fari maksimume po 90 redaktojn por minuto. Tio estas nova ekde lasta monato. [317]
Ŝanĝoj poste ĉi tiu semajno
- La nova versio de Mediavikio estos ĉe testaj vikioj kaj mediawiki.org ekde 24 julio. Ĝi estos ĉe ne-Vikipediaj vikioj kaj kelkaj Vikipediaj ekde 25 julio. Ĝi estos ĉe ĉiuj vikioj ekde 26 julio (kalendaro).
Kunvenoj
- Vi povas aliĝi la teknikan konsilan renkontiĝon ĉe IRC. Dum la renkontiĝo, volontulaj ellaborantoj povas peti konsilon. La renkontiĝo estos la 25 julio je 15a horo (UTK). Vidu kiel aliĝi.
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09:44, 24 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Angla pluralo
Kiu ŝablono estas preferinda?
{ { en-substantivo|... } }
{{en-substantivo|bugger}}
{ { Angla substantivo (superrigardo)|... } }
{{Angla substantivo (superrigardo)
|Ununombro=bugger
|Multenombro=buggers
}}
Ne bonas: [https://eo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Ŝablono:Englisch_Substantiv_Übersicht&redirect=no] Taylor 49 (diskuto) 10:59, 27 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The design on Special:Log has changed. It will change again soon. Developers are working on fixing problems. [318]
Problems
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.13 has been partially delayed. All deployments have been resumed and successfully done after bug fixes. [319][320]
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.14 has been partially delayed. [321][322]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 julio. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 aŭgusto. It will be on all wikis from 2 aŭgusto (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 julio at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 aŭgusto at 15:00 (UTC) as well as at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- After a community discussion, a new group for users will be created. "Interface administrators" will be the only users allowed to edit interface pages like MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Common.js. This is done to avoid technical issues and improve security. That change will be effective by the end of August 2018.
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14:05, 30 jul. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Special:NewPages now has the OOUI look. [323]
Problems
- The MediaWiki version that was released two weeks ago was late to some Wikimedia wikis. This was because of bugs. It was on all wikis 30 July. [324][325]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 August. It will be on all wikis from 9 August.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:39, 6 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Problemo kun foriga ŝablono
En iuj artikoloj aperas foriga ŝablono kie kiel kaŭzo de forigo estas indikita enigma CRAP. Mi ne sukcesis kompreni kion tio signifas kaj kiel korekti la evidentan eraron. Oni povas vidi ĝin en la artikolo сестра.--RG72 (diskuto) 08:39, 11 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- CSS in templates can now be stored in a separate page on all wikis. This is called TemplateStyles. This is to make it easier to edit how templates look. [326]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers are planning more ways to block users. This could be blocking someone from just a page or a namespace. You can read more. You can leave feedback on the talk page. [327]
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17:53, 13 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard
Sorry for writing this message in English. Feel free to help translate it below.
Hello all,
A few months ago, we asked you for feedback about Cognate, the system allowing interwikilinks between Wiktionaries (on main namespace). Several community members gave some suggestions, one of them was to provide statistics about these interwikilinks.
The Wikidata team is pleased to present you the Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard, a website presenting a lot of interesting information about how Wiktionaries are connected to each others. You can find there, for example:
- the most interlinked Wiktionary entries not having a page on your Wiktionary
- the number of interlinks between each possible pair of Wiktionaries
- visualizations of the relationships between different Wiktionaries
To learn more about the tool, you can have a look at the documentation (please help us translating it in your language!). The interface of the tool itself can also be translated in other languages by using this page.
If you find a bug, please let a comment on this Phabricator task or ping me onwiki. Thanks a lot, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 13:08, 14 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The 2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
- Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example Test Wikipedia or mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can read the migration guide to fix old scripts. [328]
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16:46, 20 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Subskibo de TechNews sur cxi tiu pagxo
Saluton. Mi estas nova tie cxi. Sxajnas al mi ke TechNews kvazaux spamas la diskutejon per por mi neinteresajn novajxojn. Mi scivolemas cxu vi ankaux havas tiun impreson. Se jes eble ni faru subpagxon por TechNews kiun interesuloj povas aboni.--So9q (diskuto) 09:35, 27 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view. [329]
- Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the interface admin user right. [330]
Problems
- Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it. [331]
Changes later this week
- The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand. [332]
- AWB will stop adding
using AWB
in the edit summary. Instead it will add a tag that saysAWB
. [333] - Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says
Deprecated. Use ... instead
. An example isarticle_text
which is nowpage_title
. [334] - Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is
page_age
. [335] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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16:16, 27 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Voĉdonado 2018-Aug-28 pri kelkaj terminoj, sintakso kaj egalsignoj
Pri [336] kaj [337]. Bonvole voĉdonu.
Ĉu la preferinda termino estu "antonimo" aŭ "kontraŭvorto"?
- ANTONIMO. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- kontraŭvorto, absolute. ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Kontraŭvorto (ĉeflitere ĉar ĝi estas titolo de sekcio).Kial ekparoli greke se ni povas paroli Esperanton, ĉi-kaze eĉ per la sama nombro da silaboj? -- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- "antonimo", ĝi estas la plej ofta vorto por tiu koncepto kaj ĝi estas la tradicia lingvistika termino, kiu uzindas en vortaro. Ni estas neŭtrala esperanta vortaro, kiu priskribas kaj uzas la efektivan lingvouzon. Ni ne estas bonlingvisma vortaro. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 12:32, 8 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la preferinda termino estu "sinonimo" aŭ "samsencaĵo"?
- SINONIMO. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- samsencaĵo. ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Samsencaĵo (ĉeflitere ĉar ĝi estas titolo de sekcio).Kial ekparoli greke se ni povas paroli Esperanton, ĉi-kaze eĉ per la sama nombro da silaboj? -- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- "sinonimo", ĝi estas la plej ofta vorto por tiu koncepto, ĝi estas oficiala kaj ĝi estas la tradicia lingvistika termino, kiu uzindas en vortaro. Ni estas neŭtrala esperanta vortaro, kiu priskribas kaj uzas la efektivan lingvouzon. Ni ne estas bonlingvisma vortaro. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 12:32, 8 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la preferinda termino estu "prononco" aŭ "elparolo"?
- (neutra voĉo) Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- (neutra voĉo) ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Elparolo (ĉeflitere ĉar ĝi estas titolo de sekcio). La radiko elparol/ estas fundamenta kaj pli internacia; prononc/ estas francaĵo (ne eĉ latinaĵo ĉar ĝi ne estas pronunc/) enkondukita en la 3an Oficialan Aldonon.-- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Ĉu la preferinda termino estu "etimologio" aŭ "deveno"?
- (neutra voĉo) Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- deveno. ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Deveno (ĉeflitere ĉar ĝi estas titolo de sekcio). En la greka ἐτυμολογία signifas laŭlitere 'studo de la vera (senco de vorto)' kaj Esperante ĉi-kaze ni havas eĉ malpli da silaboj por esti pli konkretaj.-- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Uskleco
Ĉu la sintakso uzu majusklan literon "==={{Vortospeco|Adjektivo|eo}}===" (germana stilo) aŭ minusklan literon "==={{Vortospeco|adjektivo|eo}}===" (nuna stilo jam unuformigita per roboto) ?
- minusklan ("adjektivo"). Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
- minusklan ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Ĉefliteran (t.e. majusklan). Se vi volas ŝanĝi titolojn por ke ili estu et-literaj, ĉio en Vikivortaro, eĉ la titolo de ĉi tiu sekcio, devus esti et-litera. Tio estas sensencaĵo. Tia ne estas Esperanto. Ne aludu al la germana stilo, ĉar per tio vi eble emas entrudi la ideon, ke la germana estas tro "ĉefliterema" kaj ne Esperanto, kaj tial ni ne ĉefliterumu titolojn. Falsaĵo. Titoloj en Esperanto ja komencu per ĉeflitero.-- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Egalsignoj
Ĉu oni perrobote unuformigu "==={{Signifoj}}===", "===={{Tradukoj}}====" kaj simile, forigante ĉiujn egalsignojn de ĉiuj paĝoj, krom "=={{Lingvo"... (ĉiam du egalsignoj, nivelo 2) kaj "==={{Vortospeco"... (ĉiam tri egalsignoj, nivelo 3), aldonante 4 egalsignojn (nivelo 4) en la ŝablonojn mem, do la kodo fariĝu "{{Signifoj}}", "{{Tradukoj}}" kaj simile?
- JES. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:11, 28 aŭg. 2018 (UTC)
Ne - mi ŝatas la enhavon ĉe la komenco da paĝoj. Sen la egalsignoj, oni ne povos iri rapide al konkreta titolo. Kial vi volas forigi ilin?}} ARR8 (diskuto) 19:40, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)- Mi komprenas - vi volas ŝanĝi la ŝablonon. Mi samopinias. ARR8 (diskuto) 19:48, 1 sep. 2018 (UTC)
- Egalsignojn havu nur la sekcioj Lingvo, Vortospeco kaj Tradukoj. Ne plu. "{{Signifoj}}", "{{Elparolo}}", ktp. estu bloke redaktitaj sub Vortospeco. Se ni ne faras tion, oni generas senutile tro grandan enhavan tabelon komence de la artikoloj. Kiu konas alilingvajn Vikivortarojn, tiu scias, ke mi pravas.-- Pablo Escobar 23:13, 5 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new user right for users who can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages. [338][339]
- There will be an A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks. [340][341]
- You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of TemplateStyles. [342]
wp10
in ORES is now calledarticlequality
. [343]- When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed. [344]
Problems
- UploadWizard had problems with campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed. [345]
- You can get a notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week. [346]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also see the presentation.
- The RelatedSites extension will be removed from Wikivoyage.
- Unused projects on the Wikimedia Cloud virtual private server will be removed. This will happen in October. Projects can be marked if they are being used. [347]
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16:48, 3 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text. [348]
Problems
- Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week. [349]
- Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed. [350]
<maplink>
did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed. [351]{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected. [352]- When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this. [353]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.
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22:35, 10 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Jen la fino de mia (Taylor) kontribuado graŭ la imperatoro (Pablo)
Antaŭ iom da tempo Pablo neatendite kaj nepravigite forbaris min (Taylor) el la Esperanta Vikivortaro kun daŭro de unu semajno. Bedaŭrinde mi ne intencas sekvi la dezirpensadon de Pablo. Jen mi revenas. Plej verŝajne Pablo solvos la "problemon" per permanente forbari min nun. Do ĉi tio estas plej verŝajne la fino de mia kontribuado. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 09:36, 13 sep. 2018 (UTC)
Propono depreni administrantajn rajtojn de Pablo pro ties fiuzo
Pro fiuzo de administrantaj rajtoj mi proponas depreni tiujn administrantajn rajtojn de Pablo se ri ne rezignas mem dum sep (7) tagoj ekde hodiaŭ.
Eble indus havi alian uzanton kiel administranton. Mi proponas na Robin kiu jam helpis plikoherigi Vikivortaron kaj kapablas uzi robotojn.
Taylor 49 (diskuto) 09:36, 13 sep. 2018 (UTC)
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- The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs. [354]
- MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests. [355]
Problems
- You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed. [356]
Changes later this week
- Special:AncientPages can hide disambiguation pages. [357]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (calendar).
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- The developers are testing new mobile web navigation. You can use it and give feedback.
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21:58, 17 sep. 2018 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
- The preferences form will change to use the standard look. If you see any problems please report them on Phabricator. [358]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (calendar).
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15:23, 24 sep. 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Ordinary pages can no longer be loaded as javascript. You could do this using
?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
in the URL. Only fully protected pages in the MediaWiki: namespace or user javascript subpages can be loaded as javascript now. This is for better security. [359][360]
Problems
- New and updated translations from will not reach the wikis for a while. You can still translate messages on translatewiki.net. The Wikimedia wikis will be updated with the new translations later. This is because of work on the translation system. [361][362]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 October. It will be on all wikis from 4 October (calendar).
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- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the meeting with the Wikimedia Foundation Search Platform team. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 UTC. See how to join if you want to know how the search function works or have questions.
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- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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17:35, 1 okt. 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. You can use the Programs and Events Dashboard or the Fountain instead. [363]
Problems
- There was a problem when you copied and pasted from a table with the visual editor. It could add
href
where it shouldn't be. This has now been fixed. [364]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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23:38, 8 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Perrobote farendaj ŝanĝoj 2018-Oct...2018-Nov
Anstataŭigo de ŝablono "Ŝablono:Substantivo" per "Ŝablono:Vortospeco|substantivo"... kaj "Ŝablono:Verbo" per "Ŝablono:Vortospeco|verbo"... kaj "Ŝablono:Adjektivo" per "Ŝablono:Vortospeco|adjektivo"...
- title=acorn&type=revision&diff=684340&oldid=528846 kaj title=diri&type=revision&diff=684731&oldid=632717] Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:28, 25 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:Senco" kaj "Ŝablono:Signifo" per "Ŝablono:Signifoj" koherigante egalsignojn
Jam alidirektas. Ĉirkaŭ 15 paĝoj "Signifo" kaj multaj paĝoj "Ŝablono:Signifo". Taylor 49 (diskuto) 09:05, 10 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:Deveno" per "Ŝablono:Etimologio" aŭ male
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:intrans." per "Ŝablono:netrans."
Koherigo de egalsignoj
{{Lingvo}}
havu ĉiam du egalsignojn "=="{{Vortospeco}}
havu ĉiam tri egalsignojn "==="{{Signifoj}}
kaj{{Tradukoj}}
havu ĉiam kvar egalsignojn "===="- Ceterajn tiaspece uzatajn egalsignojn oni forigu.
Gravas: faru tion post ke "Anstataŭigo de ŝablono "Substantivo" per "Vortospeco|substantivo"... kaj "Verbo" per "Vortospeco|verbo"..." estas plenumita. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 05:55, 11 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "Ŝablono:Esperanto-adjektivo" kaj "Ŝablono:Esperanto-substantivo" per "Ŝablono:Deklinacio-eo" forigante eblajn parametrojn
- title=mojosa&type=revision&diff=693956&oldid=693946 kaj felo&type=revision&diff=693957&oldid=637543 Taylor 49 (diskuto) 06:12, 11 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "{{{Vortospeco|substantivo|angla}}}" per "{{Vortospeco|substantivo|en}}" kaj eble similaj
- Nekonata kvanto da paĝoj, rimarku la fuŝon kun 3 krampoj "{{{". Eĉ italaj enkopiitaj paĝoj: eo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=deridere&action=edit&oldid=686002 Taylor 49 (diskuto) 19:51, 6 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "en-noun" per "en-subst" forigante eblajn parametrojn
{{en-noun}}
jam alidirektas al{{en-subst}}
. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 18:27, 6 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Anstataŭigo de "==English==" per "=={{Lingvo|en}}=="
Anstataŭigo de "===Noun===" per "==={{Vortospeco|substantivo|en}}==="
Anstataŭigo de "====Translations====" per "===={{Tradukoj}}===="
Anstataŭigo de "{{Separo}}" per "{{Vorterseparo}}"
- Jam alidirektas. Ĉirkaŭ 75 paĝoj. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:44, 8 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Diskutado
- Bonvole diskutu! Taylor 49 (diskuto) 13:44, 8 nov. 2018 (UTC)
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- Some pages, edits and users disappeared for a short while after the server switch. Missing content and users was fixed within a day. Some preferences and other things might take a few more days to fix. [365]
- Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again. [366]
Changes later this week
- When you create an abuse filter that prevents edits you can now write a specific error message for it. Before this all abuse filters that prevented edits had the same error message. [367]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 October. It will be on all wikis from 18 October (calendar).
Meetings
- There will be no more meetings with the Editing team. This is because not enough Wikimedians were interested. To tell developers which bugs you think are the most important you can use Phabricator as normal. [368]
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:41, 15 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Propono: nomospaco "Aldono"
En la sveda Vikivortaro ni havas apartan nomospacon "Appendix" kiu enhavas tradukajn vortarojn, listojn kun falsaj amikoj, ĝeneralajn gramatikajn klarigojn kaj ĉiun alian enhavon ol kapvortoj. Ĉi tie la Kategorio: Vortaro enhavas paĝojn aŭ en la ĉefa nomospaco ekzemple Vortaro_pri_meteologio_plurlingva aŭ en aparta nomospaco "Vikivortaro" ekzemple Vikivortaro:Esperanto/Listo_da_falsaj_amikoj_Esperanto-germana. Mi proponas krei nomospacon "Aldono" kaj movi ĉiujn nekapvortajn paĝojn (tradukajn vortarojn, listojn kun falsaj amikoj, ĝeneralajn gramatikajn klarigojn) tien. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:42, 16 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- La anglalingva Vikivortaro ankaŭ havas tiun nomspacon. Oni jam povas krei tiaj paĝoj ĉi tie, eĉ sen nomspaco. Ekzemple, la anglalingva paĝo en:Appendix:Glossary estas Helpo:Vortospeco tie ĉi, kaj la anglalingva en:Appendix:Latin_pronunciation estas la katalunlingva ca:Viccionari:Pronúncia_del_llatí (Vikivortaro:Prononco de la latina).
- Tamen, mi opinias, ke kreado de la nomspaco obstrukcus nenion, do mi ne kontraŭas ĝin - simple, mi esperas ke neniu, kiu volas krei paĝon simila al paĝoj, kiun vi priskribis, atendu unue la nomspackreadon. ARR8 (diskuto) 03:11, 18 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Projektego: plibonigi la kvaliton de la EO Vikivortaro
Laŭ mia opinio multo estas farenda:
- forigu paĝojn kun kopirajtaj problemoj
- estigu koheran fakan strukturon: Vikivortaro:Strukturo_de_Fako kaj Helpo:Mallongigoj (mi laboradas pri tio)
- forigu privatajn ŝablonojn pri fakoj (mi laboradas pri tio)
- certigu ke nur unu ŝablono estas uzata por aldono de kapvortoj en fakaj kategorioj (eble
{{fak}}
, certege ne{{Vortospeco}}
) (mi laboradas pri tio) - forigu privatajn ŝablonojn pri stilo (ĝeneralajn kaj lingvodependajn) (mi laboradas pri tio)
- certigu ke nur unu ŝablono estas uzata por aldono de kapvortoj en stilaj kategorioj (eble
{{sti}}
) (mi laboradas pri tio) - kreu ŝablonon por lingvodependaj stiloj (angla britlanda, hispana amerika, ...) (ankoraŭ ne kreita)
- unuformigu uzon de egalsignoj kaj strukturon de kapvortoj (mi laboradas pri tio)
- kreu unu ŝablonon por verbaj detaloj (transitiva, refleksiva, ...) (ankoraŭ ne kreita)
- kreu unu ŝablonon por substantivaj detaloj (nur singularo, kolektiva signifo, ...) (ankoraŭ ne kreita)
- plibonigu la ŝablonon
{{sti}}
por ke ĝi akceptu plurajn parametrojn (nenio farita) - forigu ĉiujn intervikiojn, germanaĵojn, rusaĵojn, francaĵojn, italaĵojn, hispanaĵojn, redundaĵojn, senvaloraĵojn, ... (mi laboradas pri tio)
- koherigu la tradukblokojn (unu traduka subbloko per unu difino, ne ekzemple tradukoj [1] ... [7] sed nur du difinoj)
Bonvole diskutu ĉi tie. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 12:30, 19 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Mi kontraŭas arbitran rapidan forigadon (post nur unusemajna atendado) de pluraj ŝablonoj kiel fizika, jura, ŝaka ktp. proponitan de Taylor 49. Mi konsideras tiujn ŝablonojn utila kaj necesa. Pro tio mi kreis ilin kaj listigis en Helpo:Mallongigoj. Ili ekzistas en aliaj vikioj kaj ankoraŭ ne estas vaste uzataj en la nia nur pro tio ke ili estis kreitaj antaŭnelonge. Ĝenerale plejparto de la artikoloj uzas malmultajn ŝablonojn kaj tio estas manko korektenda, ne avantaĝo konservenda.
Ankaŭ mi kontraŭas uzadon en lingvaj diskutoj fuŝajn dialektaĵojn kiel na (ekz. en Ŝablono:sporta aperis neutila, uzu na "{{fak|sporto|..}}".). Estas strange vidi tion en Vikivortaro. Ni sekvu norman lingvaĵon, ne eksperimentaĵojn kaj dialektojn. Same mi ne komprenas kial ekzemple en artikolo жена necesis anstataŭigi malofta per rara. Kiucele?
Resume. Tiom grandaj kaj gravaj ŝanĝoj okazu nur surbaze de aprobo de la komunumo. Unue proponu, poste argumentu kaj diskutu, kaj nur fine ŝanĝu. Ne inverse.--RG72 (diskuto) 16:54, 19 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Ni havas ridindan redundon. Ekzemple por figurasenca signifo, ni havis aŭ havas ŝablonojn: "fig" "(fig)" "fig." "Fig." "figurs." "figuré" (francaĵo), do almenaŭ 6 ŝablonojn. Na kiom da ŝablonoj oni bezonas nur por indiki "figurasenca signifo"? Vi kreis grandan kvanton da novaj ŝablonoj, la problemoj kun tio estas:
- ni jam havis amason da ŝablonoj kun sama celo
- viaj ŝablonoj enhavas rusaĵojn, ŝajne ili estas kopiitaj el la rusa vikivortaro
- vi kreis novan liston kun fakoj kiu ne kongruas kun la jam pli frue disponebla listo Vikivortaro:Strukturo_de_Fako
- Ekzemple en la sveda vikivortaro tiaj ŝablonoj ne ekzistas. Oni havas nur unu komunan ŝablonon por ĉiuj fakoj. Multe pli saĝe.
- Rapida forigado ne okazas. Multaj paĝoj atendis en la forigenda listo dum multaj monatoj aŭ eĉ jaroj kaj ankoraŭ ne estas forigitaj.
- Vi pravas pri ke "gravaj ŝanĝoj okazu nur surbaze de aprobo de la komunumo". Ĉu senŝanĝa amasa kopiado de paĝoj kaj ŝablonoj de "certaj" aliaj vikivortaroj ne estas grava ŝanĝo? Ĉu germanaj aŭ rusaj "dokumentaĵoj" ne etas "grava ŝanĝo"? Ĉu tio estu memkompreneblaĵo? Eble vi intervenas iomete tarde.
- Bonvole klarigu vian preferindan strukturon de la ŝablonaro.
- Eble ni komencu diskuti la gravajn demandojn nun. Ĝisnune tio ne okazis. Diversaj kontribuistoj kreis (ofte per kopiado) ridindan redundon kaj porkejon kaj sekve foriris. Ĉu oni alstrebu amason (kvanto da paĝoj, kvanto da redaktoj, kvanto da ŝablonoj, ...) aŭ kvaliton? Taylor 49 (diskuto) 19:48, 19 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi kreis ne "ridindan redundon" aŭ "porjeon" kiel vi ĝentile vortumis, sed valorajn artikolojn kiuj bezonis ŝablonojn. Se iam vi kreos ion similan al майдан aŭ хохол mi povos konsideri viajn pritaksojn pli serioze.
- Kreante tiujn artikolojn mi alfrontis mankon de ŝablonoj. Mi kreis unu, poste alian kaj fine decidis krei la tutan nombron de bazaj ŝablonoj necesaj por marki fakan aŭ stilan apartenon de la respektiva vorto aŭ esprimo. Mi mem jam uzis ilin kaj certe ili uzendas ankaŭ en aliaj artikoloj kaj helpos al aliaj vortaristoj. Pruvu malon, se vi povas.
- Mi ne vidas rusismojn en la kreitaj de mi ŝablonoj. Se vi trovis tion — montru.
- Mi ne uzis ruslingvan, nek germanlingvan dokumentaron.
- Amasa kreado (fare de mi) kaj amasa forigado (fare de vi) ne kompareblas. Ĉu vi ne vidas diferencon inter krei kaj detrui? Ne eblas fari amasan detruadon sen aprobo de la komunumo, kies opinion vi eĉ ne demandis antaŭ agi.
- Vi diras "rapida forigado ne okazas". Tamen en la metita de vi foriga ŝablono estas klare skribite: "la paĝo estos forigita en unu semajno". Tio estas marko de la tuja forigado aplikebla al evidentaj vandalaĵoj, alilingvaĵoj ktp. Kio pravigas la tujan forigadon ĉi-foje?
- Kion celis anstataŭigo de malofta per rara?
- En tiu foriga averto vi skribas: "uzu na (nomo de alia ŝablono)". Supre vi diras: "Na kiom da ŝablonoj oni bezonas...". Ĉu vi certas ke vi pretas esti vortaristo, se eĉ en lingvaj diskutoj vi ne kapablas sekvi regulan Esperanton?--RG72 (diskuto) 05:10, 20 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- "kiel vi ĝentile vortumis" -> Mi ne celis vin, sed la suman rezulton de ĉiuj redaktoj de ĉiuj kontribuintoj.
- "vi kreos ion similan al майдан aŭ хохол" -> Mi ne kapablas krei rusajn kapvortojn. Sed mi kreadas esperantajn, svedajn kaj indoneziajn.
- "alfrontis mankon de ŝablonoj" -> Ho mi kredas al vi. Ŝablonoj abundas, sed ili apenaŭ estas troveblaj. Kaj ĝuste tion mi klopodas plibonigi.
- "Pruvu malon, se vi povas." -> Atendu, mi faros.
- "trovis tion — montru" jen jen jen (plej sube).
- "ne uzis ruslingvan, nek germanlingvan dokumentaron" -> Denove, mi ne celis vin, sed la sumon. jen (rusa fontokodo, kiun vi ne enmetis, sed dependas de ĝi).
- "Ĉu vi ne vidas diferencon inter krei kaj detrui" -> Jes ja mi vidas ĝin. Vi ankaŭ ofte "tuj" forigas. Eble Ŝablono:Ĝermo estas multe pli mojosa ol "Ĝermo-biologio" kaj abundo da similaj ŝablonoj? Mi ne detruis ion, sed mi proponis forigon de ne plu utilaj ŝablonoj. Parenteze vi detruis na multe da (neutilaj) ŝablonoj en la vikipedio. Do kiu estas la plej danĝera detruisto?
- "komunumo, kies opinion vi eĉ ne demandis" -> Vidu supre, mi multfoje instigis diskutojn. Aliaj apenaŭ faras tiel. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 19:29, 20 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- En la du prezentitaj de vi ekzemploj mi ne trovis rusismojn. Ĉu vi konsideras rusismo la vorton kunteksto? PIV havas alian opinion.
- Mi uzas ŝablonojn, kiuj enhavas ruslingvan dokumentaron, sed ĉu mi havas elekteblon? Mi uzas ilojn haveblajn kaj por mi tute ne gravas, kiulingva estas ilia dokumentaro.
- Mi forigas en Vikipedio multe da artikoloj sen atendi — laŭe al vikipediaj reguloj. Ĝis nun neniu plendis pri tio, eĉ inverse — plejparte mi nur plenumas alies petojn. Rilate vian ekzemplon demandu Robin van der Vliet.
- Vi diras ke demandis la komunumon, sed ne ricevis respondon. Ĉu vi vere konsideras tion sufiĉa pravigo por eki ŝanĝojn arbitre?
- Vi ĝis nun ne respondis kial vi anstataŭigas malofta per rara. Ankaŭ vi ne klarigis, kial klopodante esti vortaristo vi parolas neregulan Esperanton, apenaŭ kompreneblan ekster grupeto da eksperimentuloj. Kion signifas vi detruis na multe, uzu na (nomo de alia ŝablono), Na kiom da ŝablonoj oni bezonas. PIV ne konas vorton na. Ĉu vi planas reformi ne nur Vikivortaron, sed ankaŭ Esperanton?--RG72 (diskuto) 04:50, 21 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Mi toleris, ke ĉi tiu uzanto uzu sian volapugaĵon 'na' en la diskutoj, sed mi ĵus rimarkis, ke li ankaŭ uzas ilin en ŝablonoj, kaj do en la enhavo mem de la kapvortoj! Mi dankas lin pro liaj multaj bonaj kontribuaĵoj, sed kun doloro mi baru lin dum 3 monatoj por ĝuste "plibonigi la kvaliton de la Esperanta Vikivortaro". -- Pablo Escobar 21:28, 13 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Eĉ kvankam mi jam pli-malpli forlasis ĉi tiun projekton, oni tamen petis al mi doni mian opinion ĉi tie. Mi konsentas kun rapida forigado de ŝablonoj, se ili estas neuzataj, kaj se troviĝas pli bona, samaspekta kaj pli ĝenerala ŝablono, kiel ekzemple {{fak}}
. Oni faras tute same en Vikipedio, kie oni lastatempe forigis multajn ĝermo-ŝablonojn kaj unuigis ilin ĉiujn en w:Ŝablono:Ĝermo. Mi ne vere vidas diferencon kun la situacio ĉi tie.
Al mi estas iom ironie, ke RG72 esprimas kontraŭon al "fuŝaj dialektaĵoj" kiel "na", sed tamen uzas la kontraŭnorman vorton "alies" en la diskuto. Sed mi ĉiuokaze malkonsentas kun tiu kontraŭo, ni ĉiuj havas liberecon je parolo kaj rajtas uzi ĉe diskutpaĝoj tiujn vortojn, kiujn ni mem volas uzi. Se tiaj tre maloftaj vortoj aperas en la ĉefa nomspaco, oni povas anstataŭigi ilin per pli kutimaj vortoj. Klarigoj pri la vortoj "na" kaj "alies" troviĝas en PMEG, ReVo, Vikivortaro kaj Vikipedio, do oni ne povas diri, ke oni neniel povas kompreni ilin.
Mi kontraŭas anstataŭigadon de "malofta" per "rara". La vorto "malofta" kredeble estas pli ofta, do ĝi estas uzinda en titoloj de ŝablonoj, sed en liberenhavaj tekstoj ambaŭ vortoj estas uzeblaj. Robin van der Vliet (diskuto) (kontribuoj) 11:44, 22 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Dankon pro la respondoj.
- Pri "kontraŭas anstataŭigadon de "malofta" per "rara". La vorto "malofta" kredeble estas pli ofta, do ĝi estas uzinda en titoloj de ŝablonoj" (Robin) -- mi uzis la vorton "rara" kiel parametro de ŝablono "sti", do la demando "ĉu malofta aŭ rara" ne plu povas kaŭzi kreojn, alinomigojn kaj forigojn de ŝablonoj. Oni voĉdonu pri tio aparte.
- Pri "Ĉu vi konsideras rusismo la vorton kunteksto" -- ne.
- Dankon pro la respondoj.
La ŝablono "fervoja", far RG72, antaŭ ke mi proponis ĝian forigon:
{{termino|fervoja|fervoja|кат={{#if: {{{nocat|}}}||Fervoja termino}}|lingvo={{{1|}}}}}<noinclude>
Fervoja termino.
[[Kategorio: Ŝablonaro pri notoj|{{paĝonomo}}]]
</noinclude>
La ŝablono "sporta", far RG72, antaŭ ke mi proponis ĝian forigon:
{{termino|sporta|sporta|кат={{#if: {{{nocat|}}}||Sporta termino}}|lingvo={{{1|}}}}}<noinclude>
Sporta termino.
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- La du problemoj evidentiĝas: rusaĵo кат kaj preskaŭ identa enhavo de la du (kaj cirkaŭ 200 aliaj) ŝablonoj. La uzata ŝablono "termino" enhavas na eĉ pli da rusaĵoj. Mi entute ne komprenas kiel vi faris por ne sukcesi trovi la rusaĵojn.
- Pri "Mi uzas ŝablonojn, kiuj enhavas ruslingvan dokumentaron, sed ĉu mi havas elekteblon? Mi uzas ilojn haveblajn kaj por mi tute ne gravas, kiulingva estas ilia dokumentaro." -- vi denove rekte malpravas. Vi havas elekteblon traduki la dokumentaĵon, supoze ke vi regnas ka rusan. Mi entute ne regnas la rusan, do mi neniam kopias enhavon de la rusa vikivortaro. Kaj eĉ pli grave, por vi eble ne gravas, sed la ŝablonaro disponeblu por ĉiuj esperantistoj, ne nur por vi.
- Pri "Vi diras ke demandis la komunumon, sed ne ricevis respondon. Ĉu vi vere konsideras tion sufiĉa pravigo por eki ŝanĝojn arbitre" -- Parte mi ricevis konsenton (legu supre pri tio). Neniu respondo signifas ke neniu zorgas. Kaj pli frue aliaj mojosuloj "arbitre ekigis" drastajn ŝanĝojn ĉi tie. Ĉu ni havas interkonsenton pri amasa enkopiado de paĝoj kaj ŝablonoj de aliaj vikivortaroj? En neniu alia vikivortaro oni faras tiel, do ne temas pri memkompreneblaĵo.
- Pri "Vi ĝis nun ne respondis kial vi anstataŭigas malofta per rara. Ankaŭ vi ne klarigis, kial klopodante esti vortaristo vi parolas neregulan Esperanton" -- ĉar la demando ŝajne ege gravas por vi, mi respondas nun. Mi pritaksas la vorton "rara" pli mojosa ol "malofta". Vi malatentis la pli gravan detalon de la ŝanĝo: mi movis la demandon de "nomo de ŝablono" al "parametro de ŝablono". Oni voĉdonu pri "rara vs malofta" aparte. La prepozicio "na" generas akuzativon en frazoj kie ne disponeblas pli bona solvo: "Vi detruis na multe da mono." aŭ "Na kiom da mono vi bezonas?", pli bone ol "Kiom dan mono vi bezonas?" aŭ "Kiom da monon vi bezonas?". Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:26, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Se la komunumo konsideras utila tiun forigadon — bone, mi ne kontraŭas, se la forigaĵojn anstataŭos io vere pli oportuna kaj efika.
- Mi vidas neniun ironion en tio ke mi uzis la vorton alies, ĉar: 1. Ĝi troviĝas en PIV, kvankam kun la marko evi, kio malsamigas ĝin de na, kiun PIV ne agnoskas, nek konas. 2. Eble mia uzado de tiu evitindaĵo estas eraro, sed apenaŭ ĝi kompareblas kun tute intenca uzado de fuŝaĵo, kiun agnoskas nek PIV, nek esperanto-literaturo, ĉar temas pri solvo sen problemo, kiel montras la frazoj donitaj kiel ekzemploj. Vikivortaro sekvu regulan Esperanton, ne iun fantaziaĵon, eĉ mojosan.
- Mi regas la rusan, sed ne tradukis tiun, nek aliajn ŝablonojn, ĉar mi tute mallertas pri la ŝablonoj kaj ne volas fuŝi ion. Mi ĉiam uzas nur haveblaĵojn aŭ en plej ekstremaj kazoj blinde kopias similaĵojn. Kiu povas — faru pli bone.
- Mi kontraŭas anstataŭigon de malofta per rara, ĉar la unua estas oble pli ofte uzata. Mojoseco ne estas sufiĉa kialo, nek kriterio se temas pri serioza vortara laboro.--RG72 (diskuto) 16:15, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Dankon pro via voĉo. Pri la ŝablonaro mi esploradas kaj laboradas. EO vikivartaro havu efikan, trapensitan kaj seneraran ŝablonaron. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 16:47, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
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- The Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
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23:12, 22 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Voĉdonado (denove pri malvortoj): ĉu RARA aŭ MALOFTA ?
Vorto uzenda kiel nomo aŭ parametro de ŝablonoj: rara aŭ malofta ? Bonvole voĉdonu. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:32, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- RARA. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 11:32, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
- Malofta.--RG72 (diskuto) 16:16, 23 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Mezurilaro de komunuma sano
La mezurilaro de komunuma sano estas nova projekto por mezuri pli da aspektoj de niaj komunumoj. Se vi estas interesita en mezuroj, statistikoj kaj mezurado de redakto kaj kontribuado, bonvolu aliĝi nin je Meta por diskuti kiel kaj kio la nova projekto devus mezuri!
Ĉi tiu mesaĝo estas ankaŭ havebla en aliaj lingvoj. JSutherland (WMF) (diskuto) 23:43, 25 okt. 2018 (UTC)
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- You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
- The wikis now have a content security policy report. This means that you might get a warning in your javascript console when you load external resources in your user scripts. For security reasons it is recommended that you don't do this. It might not be possible to load external resources in your scripts in the future. [369]
Problems
- Your watchlist can show which changes you have already seen. This did not work for a few days. It has been fixed. [370]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 October. It will be on all wikis from 1 November (calendar).
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer available. It will be removed from Special:Preferences. It has not been the standard editor for a long time. It was replaced by the 2010 wikitext editor. [371][372]
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:09, 29 okt. 2018 (UTC)
Novaj moduloj
Lastatempe mi aldonis du aŭ tri modulojn:
- mchkparametrojn - jam laboras
- menregulos (regnas la tutan anglan gramatikon ... jes ja! ... preskaŭ) - jam laboras
- mpiksubstrind - ĝisnune ne utiligita ... mi ne scias ĉu mi utiligos aŭ rekte arkaikigos ĝin ;-)
Eble temas pri la plej fruaj moduloj kodumitaj por nia Esperanta vikivortaro. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 22:12, 3 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Nova ŝablono {{en-subst}}
Ŝablono pri angla substantivo. Ĝi kapablas diveni ĝustan pluralon por 99.9% da substantivoj, tiam neniuj parametroj estas necesaj. Por la ceteraj 0.1% eblas uzi nedevigajn parametrojn. Ĝi precipe taŭgas por malfacilaj vortoj. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 19:55, 2 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Laŭetimologia apartigo
Sur la paĝo bluegrass estiĝis demando ĉu oni apartigu kapvortojn laŭetimologie. En la EN vikivortaro oni faras tiel, en la SV oni ne faras. Mi ŝatus havi klaran regulon por ĉiuj kapvortoj en ĉiuj lingvoj, ne apartan solvon por unu sola paĝo bluegrass aŭ por bandeton da paĝoj (ekzemple kopiitaj el la EN vikivortaro). Ĉu iu kuraĝas komenti pri la demando? Taylor 49 (diskuto) 20:02, 2 nov. 2018 (UTC)
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- You can now use TemplateWizard to edit templates. This works only with the 2010 wikitext editor and not in the visual editor or the 2017 wikitext editor. If you click on you can enter the information in a pop-up. You can turn on TemplateWizard in your beta feature preferences. [373]
Changes later this week
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. The interface for the two-column edit conflict will change. You can read more.
- When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases and add the top result. [374]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 November. It will be on all wikis from 8 November (calendar).
Meetings
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17:29, 5 nov. 2018 (UTC)
Nova ŝablono "bildomar"
Mi ĵus enkondukis kaj ekfunkciigis novan ŝablonon {{bildomar}}
("bildo kun marĝeno kaj teksto"). Ĝi ne estas ege saĝa, sed ĝi almenaŭ simpligas kaj unuformigas subtitolajn ŝablonojn ĉe niveloj 5 (multaj, ekzemple "Vorterseparo") kaj 4 ("Signifoj" kaj "Tradukoj"). Ĝi certigas taŭgan marĝenon ĉirkaŭ la bildo kaj inter la subsekcioj, io kion mi jam klopodis atingi pli frue per unuopaj redaktoj, sed tiam nek tre lerte nek tre sukcese. Nun mi ŝajne iomete bone sukcesis. Postlasitaj malnovaj malplaĉaĵoj: parte ne tre bonaj bildoj, kaj "Vorterseparo" kaj "Silabseparo" uzas saman bildon. Bonvole proponu aŭ kontribuu pli bonjajn bildojn, se vi volas. Taylor 49 (diskuto) 18:08, 6 nov. 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10. [375]
Problems
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed. [376][377][378]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations. [379]
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19:22, 12 nov. 2018 (UTC)